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From: yair <>
Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] The Increase??
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:09:31 +0200
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The Increase??
Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] MRCA of R1b1b2e as early as 1388 CE??
At 06:43 AM 10/7/2008, David Wilson wrote:
>Yair,
>
>First, a clarification. Any individual who carries or carried the M222 SNP
>belongs/belonged to haplogroup R1b1b2e as it is currently termed by Family
>Tree DNA and the YCC. The single individual in whom the M222 mutation first
>occurred is clearly the common ancestor of all these individuals.


OK. Thank you. And you yourself as you have said incline to the view
that the MRCA
lived around 1000 CE.
The total world population of R1b1b2e has been estimated as between
ca. 2 million to 4 million
(I have seen both figures referred separately). If we add in females
that gives us
ca. 4 to 8 million possible descendants from one ancestor in 1000 years.
Quite an achievement, think you not?

By way of comparison,
The Bible says that the Children of Israel sojourned in Egypt for 400
years and increased and multiplied.
From 70 males of the family of Jacob who went down to Egypt they
increased to 600,000.
Sceptics have claimed that such an increase is extremely unlikely or
impossible yet now
the experts are saying that the MRCA (NIal?) of R1b1b2e all on his
own did just as well or even better!!
And this is after the Great Irish Famine and other numerous disasters
that decimated the Irish population??

I personally am quite ready to believe that the proposed increase
could have somehow taken place.
I am however surprised that others also accept it.
Could you comment please?
Even so far as to say that I have indeed understood what you are
saying correctly would help.

Yair Davidiy
Jerusalem
Israel



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