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From: "Anthony O'Shaughnessy" <>
Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] Dubious Paternity descriptions
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:58:47 +0100


from Tony O'Shaughnessy
Re R1b1c7

The correspondence in referring to "Non Paternity Event"
terminology indicates scope for a bit of fun as well as a search
for a more logical description.
The invention of a suitable substitute would be of benefit to all
involved in Genealogical discussion.

"Extra Marital" (EM) could be used, however Extra Marital
Affairs or Sex do not necessarily lead to Paternity.
How about "Irregular Paternity" (IP)
or
"Irregular Paternity Event or Intrusion" (IPE or IPI).
More suggestions please.

A Paternal "IRREGULARIS" in Latin would be somebody whose
paternal position does not conform to normal societal expectations
in regard to fatherhood, i.e. the Paternity would be classified as
"ex defectu", ( refer to the decretals of Pope Innocent 111 ).
In a pedantic medieval sense this terminology describes
someone who flouts accepted norms, criminally or otherwise,
e.g. a rapist, bigamist or unmarried Father ttc.
It is also a suitably ambiguous description in a modern
apparently non-judgemental politically correct sense.

Gaelic Irish Society did not have a Biblical attitude to either
Marriage or illegitimacy.
Only the offspring of Female Prostitutes were strictly regarded
as illegitimate and undeserving of the protection of Brehon Law.

Not all Irish O'Neill Family lineages necessarily claim descent
from Niall of the Nine Hostages or from his descendant
Niall Gluindubh, e.g. there are O'Neill families in the south of
Ireland whose ancestry is unconnected to the supposedly
R1b1c7 Northern Uí Neill.
Not all apparent O'Neill Family Name DNA differences are
therefore down to Irregular Paternity Events resulting from
Extra Marital Affairs.
TO'S

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