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From: Steven Lominac <>
Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Questions ???
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:46:58 -0500
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"so far I've seen no Lamonts who are R1b1c7"

John, I have a Howard Lamont that is a 25/25 with me, I assumed he was an R1b1c7. Steve Lominac> From: > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:59:55 -0400> To: > Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Questions ???> > > In a message dated 10/1/2008 8:01:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > writes:> > <What do the Scottish families, who claim descent from O'Neills, (the > Anradan kindred) show in this regard ?> > > > So far the results don't look promising for the Anradan kindred (Lamonts, > MacSweeneys, Maclachlans, Lamonts, McEwans). Their pedigree, the earliest > version of which appears in the Books of Ballymote and Lecan (c. 400 AD) both > claim a descent from Aodh Athlaman, the ancestor of the O'Neills.> > My question is which O'Neills? The R1b1c7 O'Neills or the main group of > O'Neills who match some McShanes? The DNA I've seen for possible Anradan > descendants in Scotland is mostly not R1b1c7 and so far I haven't seen any that > matches the O'Neills/McShane variety. We don't really know yet what the DNA > is of the Maclachlans of Scotland except it appears not to be R1b1c7 and so > far I've seen no Lamonts who are R1b1c7. About half of the Irish MacSweeneys > are R1b1c7. No MacEwens are R1b1c7.> > <I've read that Anradan's father could have been either Aedh Athlamanh > d.1033 or in another tradition Aedh Alainn d.1047 (per Skene) ...?> > That's a blunder of some kind by Skene. Aedh Athlaman and Aedh Alainn are > one and the same person (Athlaman is angicised as Allan - see O Ceallaigh's > article on the O'Neills). There was no Aedh Alainn listed in any of the annals > who d. 1047. I've looked. Aedh Athlaman however appears at his death in > 1033.> > This was taken seriously at the time mainly because there is another Aedh > Alainn is some versions of the pedigrees who is clearly different from Aedh > Athlaman. In some he is called Aedh Alainn renabarta Buirc (or Aedh Alainn also > called Buirc).> > If you really want to stir the pot look at the Lamont pedigree in the > infamous Gaelic MS. of Skene.> > Genelach Clann Ladus .....Robert ic ...... ic Eoin ic> Gillacolm ic ...... mc Gilleasp ic Ferchair mc Dunsleibe ic> Buirc ic Anradan ic Gilleabeirt rig eilan Sidir ic Muredag ic> .... ic Domnaill ic Jamar.a.r. mc Martan Donn mc Neillgusa> Aberice.> > Ferchair m. Dunsleibe m. Buirc m. Anradan....> > But who the heck is the Gilleabeirt king of the western Sudreys? Who was > Neillgusa of Aberice (Lochaber)?> > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)>; > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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