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Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] Unique Characteristics of DYS #389-1 and DYS #389-2
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:35:05 EDT


David
what can you tell me about makers DYS #389-1 12 and DYS #389-2 28 In my
DNA Brain they appear to be rare when comparing with all other surnames in R
haplogroup
Gene Ashley

Unique Characteristics of DYS #389-1 and DYS #389-2
_R1b1c7 Project Haplotypes_ (http://www.m222.net/R1b1c7-color-mut.htm)
within the colorized chart only 6 out of four hundred one surnames share
markers 389 1 12 and 389 2 28 it is even more unusual that it we share those
markers with the John Duncan Ashley's and Soloman Duncan from Nova Sotia he
is in a loner by him self and also with one only one line of Duncans out
several Different lines share those markers
Gene

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The unique characteristics of markers DYS #389-1 and DYS #389-2 have to do
with the manner in which scientists code these two markers. Marker #389-2 is
the sum total of the scores for both markers #389-1 and #389-2. You will find
that in most instances, marker #389-1 will be scored at 13 and marker #389-2
at 29 (13+16). If there is a 1 point increase in marker #389-1 (from 13 to
14), it results in a corresponding increase in marker #389-2 (from 29 to 30),
when in fact the actual score (16) for marker #389-2 never changed...only its
cumulative total (14+16=30). In this instance, the increase in marker #389-2
should not be counted in your analysis as a change. If, however, marker #389-1
is the same for you (13) and another participant, but there is a one point
increase in marker #389-2 for either of you, then marker #389-2 (13+17=30) is
considered as a mismatch. Confusing, isn't it?
_Back_ (http://www.hilldna.com/index.html)
You share the same surname (or a variant) with another male and you mismatch
by three 'points' --a 34/37 match. Because of the volatility within some of
the markers this is slightly tighter then being 11/12 or 23/25 and it's most
likely that you matched 24/25 or 25/25 on previous Y-DNA tests. Your mismatch
will most often be found within DYS 439 or DYS 385 A, 385 B,389-1 and 389-2
from our first panel of 12 markers, or within the second panel: DYS #'s 458,
459 a, 459b, 449, or within 464 a-d. If you matched exactly on previous tests
you probably have a mismatch at DYS 576, 570, CDYa or CDYb in our newest
panel of markers. Your mismatch is likely within the range of most well
established surname lineages
Family Tree DNA ... the mismatch markers are usually either DYS 439 or DYS
385 A, 385 B,389-1 and 389-2 from our first panel of 12 markers,





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