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Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] What's in a name?
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:58:34 +0000

John said: "There is a surname English (C7N4C) Ysearch that is R1b1c7. Strange name for
an R1b1c7."
It is indeed. I frequently have to remind my Byrne/Burns/Beirne project members that spelling means little. I haven't run into much complete name changing among my members, though one informed me that his Roscommon family is distinguished as the "Pulley" Beirne family. He has no idea where that came from, but I can picture an actual change to surname Pulley occurring.
But similar to the English example is a Scott group in Easkey, Co. Sligo, whose name originally was Bermingham. One of them served his king in Scotland, and when he returned to Sligo he became known as the Albanach. This became a surname (there are Albanachs in the Tithe reports) and later it was anglicized to Scott.
A Byrne of Donegal descent sent me this recently: "My father was not referred to as "Con Byrne" in Kilcar but as Con Mici Lochlan. Con, then his father's name, Michael and then his grandfather's name Lochlan. The neighboring farm in Bogogh was owned by a first cousin who also was Michael so to differentiate the mother's name was used---Say the name of the cousin in Dad's generation was Patrick and his father was Michael his identification was---Pat Mici Nora."
But getting back to R1b1c7, is 447=24 more common in Scotland than in Ireland? Among my 20 or so tested or predicted R1b1c7s, all are 447=25 except one who is 26 and one who is 24, and the latter is the only one who claims Scottish ancestry. I also have a group of three seemingly related men who are 447=24 (but not R1b1c7) whom I believe are Scots. Just curious.
Paul

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