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Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Lamineck / Lominac Correspondence
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:30:43 EST

More possibilities to muddy the waters on Lominac.

I keep running across a movie called "Les Revoltes De Lomanach" (The Rebels
of Lomanach) set (apparently) somewhere in France. I can't find much about
it except it was set in the Vendee region of France and there is a reference
to a le château de Lomanach on a French site. The Vendee region is between
Brittany to the north and Poitou-Charentes to the south. One site translates
this as In Lomanach Castle.

The Irish tune, Cross an Lomanaigh is also called the Lomanach Cross.

There is a townland in Ireland called Lomaunaghroe, in Irish, Lománach
Ruadh, translation, the red bare land (Parish of Clonbern, Galway). Its bounded on
the west by Leamanaghbaun, which I suppose means the white bare land.
Apparently there is at least one other townland of the same name in Co. Cork.


_http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/asp/fullresult.asp?id=3017_
(http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/asp/fullresult.asp?id=3017)

LOMÁNACH CROSS (Cros an Lománaigh). AKA and see “Fourpenny Bit.” Irish,
Reel. G Major. Standard. AB. Lománach is near Knocknagree, Mallow, County Cork.
The “Lománach Cross” published in Ceol, iii, pg. 4 is miss-named and is
really “The Scartaglen Reel.” Source for notated version: fiddler Denis Murphy,
1966 (Gneeveguilla, Co. Kerry, Ireland) [Breathnach]. Breathnach (CRÉ II),
1976; No. 148, pg. 79.

_http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/LOA_LOM.htm_
(http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/LOA_LOM.htm)


I checked for place names in my Irish townland book. Didn't find one listed
in Cork but the following appear:

Lomanagh (Kerry)
Lomanagh North (Kerry)
Lomanagh South (Kerry)
Lomaunagh Baun (Galway)
Lomaunaghroe (Galway)


The townland in Cork is probably: Cooleenlamane, Cuilin Lomanach (bare
remote place).


This would appear to be a different origin entirely from the name in
Brittany (Loc'menach) or the place of the Monks, now Loches.

Another site has:

Locmenagh = Locus Monachorum, "the place of the monks". The older place was
Moriacum. It is now called Locmine and lies a few miles to the east of
Vannes. As Steve said, it was founded by the monks of St. Gildas.

Locminé (Breton: Logunec'h) is a small market town in Brittany in France,
located in the Morbihan département.

Widipedia has:

Locminé (Lominoec en gallo et Logunec'h en breton) est une commune
française, située dans le département du Morbihan et la région Bretagne.

What can I conclude from this? It seems the French form of Loc'menach is
Lominoec but the Breton form (Celtic) is Logunech). The Breton form is truer
to the original (Loc'menach).

Steve - It appears your surname may be French in origin. And a person
surnamed Lominoec could be a reference to the city of Locmine in Brittany. This
may account for some of the French Lemenech and Le Menach forms you're seeing
in genealogy sites.


Pfalz was on the border of France and much of the territory was annexed by
France in the late 1600s. But France ceded the territory of Pfalz back in
1697.

However, King Louis XIV. of FRANCE contested the Neuburg inheritance; the
WAR OF PALATINE SUCCESSION (1688-1697), in English often referred to as the War
of the League of Augsburg or the War of the Grand Alliance, unfolded. The
magnificent Heidelberg castle was besieged and taken by French troops (1689),
most of the territory annexed in what the French called REUNIONs. Heidelberg
again was destroyed in 1693. France faced a coalition of enemies and, in the
TREATY OF RIJSWIJK 1697, had to return the territory of the occupied Pfalz.

_http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/germany/pfalz16481742.html_
(http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/germany/pfalz16481742.html)

Didn't your Lamineck ancestor leave Pfalz in 1705? That might fit in with
the contested territory being ceded back to Germany (or Bavaria) in 1697.
Maybe he was a Frenchman who came to this part of Germany (Pfalz) during the
French occuptation? If so, what was his occupation? Farmer, merchant,
tradesman, government administrator? The Laminecks pretty much just pop up in the
late 1600s in church records in Pfalz.


John









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