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From: Steven Lominac <>
Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] Where we got the name "Scotch-Irish?"
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:52:19 -0500
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I was also under the impression that Irish who had been in America for some time called themselves Scotch Irish to differentiate themselves from the boatloads of Irish immigrants who came in the wake of the potato famine and were not greeted warmly in many quarters. Thanks for the info.

Steve Lominac> From: > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:28:23 -0400> To: > Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] Where we got the name "Scotch-Irish?"> > > > > By Kevin B. McLachlan & G. Bruce McLachlan > _A Short History of the Scots in Ireland_ > (http://www.gilcrist.com/ClanSite/scotsinireland.htm) > > A look at the history of Ireland finds Scottish people among the early > inhabitants of northern Ireland. Some came by direct appointment, others came by > choice. England was seeking to exert a greater influence upon the people of > Ireland, and, because of the failed attempt to establish a colony at Darien > (Panama), the English sought to try again in Ireland. > Lowlanders were among the first Scotsmen to go to Ireland as "appointed" > (ordered) by England. Highlanders were not included because they were considered > to be rebels. Later, however, when the colony proved successful, Highlanders > crossed the channel without "invitation." > During the time of the Ulster, Ireland colonization, there was a great > religious feeling among the people. The Presbyterian Church at that time enjoyed > autonomy and, though there was some influence from the Church of England > (Episcopal), Scots relied heavily on the Presbyterian Church. The Scottish > National Covenant of 1638 described the authority of the King as "a comfortable > instrument of God's mercy granted to this country for the maintenance of his > Kirk." Many problems arose for the Scots in Ireland. In 1639, they were forced > to sign an oath of fealty (allegiance), swearing to never oppose the King's > command and to abjure all covenants and oaths contrary to the tenor of this > engagement. This oath was later called the Black Oath. Scots who did not sign > were punished. Native Irishmen considered the Ulster Scots as intruders and > usurpers and, because of this, in an uprising in 1641, approximately 5,000 > Scots were slaughtered. Later, the English revolution of 1688 helped to solidify > the Scots' position in Ireland. Irish Catholics rose up in support of James > II, while the Scot Presbyterians supported William and Mary. The war ended in > 1691 with Ireland submitting to William and Mary. > The English never were comfortable with the Scottish Presbyterian Church in > Ireland; at one time they were referred to as "blockish Presbyters" living in > "a barbarous nook of Ireland." To counter political pressures presented by > Presbyterian ministers, a plan from England was formed to transplant Scots to > the counties of Kilkenny, Tippeerary and the seacoast of Waterford, all > districts in the extreme south of Ireland, and remote from Scotland. However, > Oliver Cromwell dismissed the Parliament and ended the transplantation of the > Scots. > But where do we get the name "Scotch-Irish?" Oh, how that name was hated! It > became commonly used in America after they arrived - they had come from > Ireland, but they were Scots, hence Scotch-Irish. The Scots left Ireland not for > religious reasons, but because of economic pressures. Ship building > expanded, and better, larger ships, able to transport more passengers, led to an > increase in emigration. Several successful businesses were established for the > sole purpose of transporting emigrants to the American colonies.> > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com>; > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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