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From: "Michael Muckian" <>
Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 and surnames - O Mochaidhean
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:42:38 +0100


Could be! According to MacLysaght, my surname, Muckian, is the
anglicization of ó Mochaidhean, a leading sept from Cremorne in Co
Monaghan inmedieval times.

In O'Dugan's Topographical Poems (The Topographical Poems of John
O'Dubhagain and Giolla Na Naomh O'Duidhrin, edited by John O'Donovan,
1862), there is a reference to "O'Mochoidhein, king of Mughdhorna",
and this is possibly the family earlier referred to as Uí Machainéin
in the Annals of Ulster. The Annals of the Four Masters mention
Oissine ua Machainén, lord of Mughdhorna, in an entry for 997.

The Mughdorna are said to be descended from Colla Meann, and then it
gets confusing for someone like me trying to make sense of the Irish
records, because in some references the Three Collas predate Niall,
and in others they come after him.

Any expert on the Collas on the list ?! I'm not one, and I'm digging
into the old texts available on CELT and Google Books. There must be
some more modern scholarship available...

Michael Muckian

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