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From: "J. David Grierson" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] R1b1c7 in Scotland
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:47:20 +1000
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wrote:

There were clans who moved into the border areas of Scotland from the highland areas (including a group of McGregors who became border Griersons).


Hello Linda,

I am intrigued by the above statement of yours. May I ask for the basis of the proposition? Whilst it fits with the family lore in my case, I have been unable to justify it. There are a number of contra arguments.
1. In terms of extant documentation, Grierson is an older surname than MacGregor.
2. The nineteenth century genealogical tables have in many cases turned out to be fabrications (in part, anyway), just a form of social climbing.
3. In my case, I am M222+, while almost all MacGregors show as R1b1.
4. None of the Grier(son), Greer or McGreer testees so far found have a haplotype that could be considered as descending from the MacGregor founder. This includes some who claim descent from Grierson of Lag (this being the family that 150 years ago claimed to be of early MacGregor blood).

My paper trail peters out in Galloway around the beginning of the 18th century, however, Grier(son) is identified in the region 300 years before that. I would appreciate any input you might have.
Regards
David Grierson

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