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From: Steven Lominac <>
Subject: Re: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1b1c7 Scotland
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:18:08 -0500


David, it is my understanding that Greer, Grierson etal are indeed derivative surnames of the MacGregors. I've read fascinating clan surname histories of how displaced clans, penal laws or simply people on the lam often led to the dropping of the Gaelic prefix or in some cases like the Grahams, would simply twist their names around in disguise, hence Graham would become McHargue or in your case, the Mac is simply dropped and anglicized on the end. From Woulfe's Irish surnames:

Mac Greagair— V— MacGregor, Gregory; 'son of
Gregory ' ; the name of a famous Scottish clan.

Mac Griogair— V— MacGreer, Greer, Grear, Grier,
Grierson ; ' son of Gregory ' ; a var. of Mac Greagair

> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:56:22 +1000> From: > To: > Subject: [DNA-R1B1C7] DNA-R1b1c7 Scotland> > I am interested in those of the sub-clade who ended up in Scotland. A > survey of the FTDNA registrations for the Scottish group shows an > amazing spread of names, and little evidence of grouping. This would > suggest, perhaps, that the Scots members moved out of Ireland well > before the use of surnames, presumably before Niall, and just fell into > line (surname-wise) whatever social group they cohabited with.> In my case, there is a paper trail for 300-odd years, and a family > rumour of a name-change prior to that. However, the family rumour had > the prior name as MacGregor.> On another tack entirely, I have a condition which one dentist has > identified as "bilateral mandibular tori", but which another dentist > some years ago identified as something else, a name which I have > forgotten. My condition doesn't look very much like that shown on > numbers of photographs available on the web, so maybe it is something > different. Essentially it consists of bony mounds on the inner face of > the mandible, one on each side. I would be interested to see whether > there is a larger than average number among our genetic group.> > Fundamentally, we need many more Celts tested for their haplogroup. > Let's keep encouraging people!!> Cheers> David Grierson (7874)> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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