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From: "Kathryn Barnett" <>
Subject: Re: [DEV] Elizabeth MUDGE
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:04:50 +1030
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Back in from my errands!

We are closer to the answer.
You mentioned that Olivia gave her residence at the time of marriage as 24
Cambridge St Plymouth...
In the 1871 census, Esther MUDGE is enumerated at 26 Cambridge St and is the
widow of a Labourer.
Seems as though your problem might be solved.
The enumerated name of Eva in 1871 seems a valid, if unusual, contraction of

In 1861 William and Esther were at Drewsteignton.

In 1851 William and Esther were at Drewsteignton with
William 18; Harriet 9; Olivia 5.

In 1841 William and Esther were at Cheriton Bishop with
Elizabeth 15; Ann 14; William 8; John 6; James 3; Harriet 10 mths

Hope this helps,


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Pine [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2010 11:32 AM
To: Kathryn Barnett
Cc: 'Joy Langdon';
Subject: Re: [DEV] Elizabeth MUDGE


I think your red herring is certainly worth chasing.

Joy came up with William and Ester MUDGE as possibles, and this adds
weight. Olivia seems such an unusual name for the times so that's a good
starting point.

I knew about the 1871 census and the error with her name - can't figure
out how that happened, unless it was a transcription error, or a problem
with dialects. Elizabeth wasn't able to read or write, and maybe someone
from out of the area couldn't understand what was said.

Thank you for your effort - I'll start looking closely at "Olivia".


On 13/12/10 09:56, Kathryn Barnett wrote:
> Hello Alan,
> Do I have the correct couple? If so, the 1871 census has your Elizabeth as
> Eva (wife of John Pine and Cook in the Workhouse). Stated place of birth
> Okehampton.
> If you search on LDS Familysearch, you will get nothing on 'Elizabeth'
> but...... you will find an 'Olivia Mudge' born in Okehampton to William
> Esther MUDGE.
> Might be a red herring but worth chasing, nevertheless. I can't do more
> (just on my way out) but I'll have another ferret around later.

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