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From: Graeme Bailey <>
Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Baily aged 23 plumber left Plymouth on the Essex1842-3
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:21:54 +1000
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 15:50 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote:
> Hi, There may be no answer to this, but I wonder if there isn`t
> more in the Australian archives . South Australia I found is less well
> online than NSW or Vic or Tasmania archives , haven`t tried any others , and
> you may well find a local report or some other local info on the wreck or
> survivors . Ditto the South Australian Pilot Company , I cannot find any
> reference to this organisation as such in the National Archives .......there
> are references to an HMS Swallow circa 1834 /5 in the main Catalogue , under
> ADM 27 a Register of Allotments, which is the Allotment declaration lists
> recording the sending of wages ( year in bracket) to next of kin by warrant
> officers , ratings and Royal Marines, from ships A-Z as listed below and
> this includes HMS Swallow from 1831/6 <...>
Many thanks for all that...
I was encouraged by finding another believable historical reference to
my ancestor, hopefully it will help to identify his birth and or next of
kin in the UK...
In his obituary Henry is praised for his boat handling for the New
Plymouth 'Landing Service' as a coxswain
ie boat driver in laymans talk :-)
I suspect he may have been the garden-variety sailor rather than Navy?
He would have been about 17 when sailing to South Australia on the
'South Australia' - he is listed as 'apprentice' so I suppose he could
have been at sea since even aged 10 in those days?
I don't think there would be time for him to have started in the Navy
and be 'out' before he turned 17?
If John and Hannah Baily/Bailey in the 1841/1851 census are indeed his
parents then living in the same dwelling 10 Morley Lane in both censuses
is Mary Scantlebury/Scandlebury who would then be Henry's sister?, she
is listed as "Seaman's wife" Apparently her Husband Josiah ***was Navy
Her maiden name would have been Mary Ann Baily/Bailey
This would make a tentative family for Henry:
Henry's Parents John Baily/Bailey m Hannah Price born 1779/80
Hannah born abt 1814
Mary Ann born abt 1820
Henry born abt 1820
So how can I use the DFHS facilities to get a lookup for these
individuals? or otherwise find the name of Mary Ann Bailey's mother and
father and her birth place?
Silvie Matthews (Thanks Sylvie!) has said I could 'send' for their birth
certificates? Do I have to make some sort of formal request or is there
a place online? I'm absolutely overwhelmed with information at the
Many thanks again to all who have helped me