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From: "Simons/Mumford" <>
Subject: Re: [DEV] Fwd: Re: terminology in an apprenticeship indenture
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:15:54 +0100
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The parish vestry had a lot of powers before 1834 - they raised a poor rate
locally, but I suppose it made sense to have a system where you could
offload some of the expense of caring for the children of paupers,
illegitimate children, and orphans, by farming them out to the local
landowners. Since it was the landowners paying the poor rate anyway, and
they often were the vestry members, perhaps they didn't mind too much - they
at least got some work from the kids for their expenditure. I'm not an
expert on this, and I think it varied from parish to parish, so I don't know
if there was a set property qualification, but it does seem to have been a
widespread practice, and seems to work on the 'the more/ larger property you
have, the more apprentices you take,' principal.

Pam




----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemary Williams" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: [DEV] Fwd: Re: terminology in an apprenticeship indenture


>
> I would like to understand more about this.
>
> Was there a qualification to propert ownership? (i.e. above a ccertain
> level?) What was the nature of the obligation?
>
> Ro
> --- Simons/Mumford <> wrote:
>
>> From: "Simons/Mumford" <>
>> To: "Daniel Morgan" <>, <>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:42:44 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [DEV] terminology in an apprenticeship indenture
>>
>> Edward Hillier would have had to take on a certain number of parish
>> apprentices a year because he owned property (Spillers) in
>> Alphington. I
>> presume he had other properties, or even lived, in Ide and she was
>> going to
>> work for him there. 'Housewifery' was really just a euphemism for
>> domestic
>> servant.
>>
>> Pam Simons
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Morgan" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:56 PM
>> Subject: [DEV] terminology in an apprenticeship indenture
>>
>>
>> > Access to Archives (http://www.a2a.org.uk/default.asp) lists this
>> 1770
>> > apprenticeship indenture in the poor law records of the parish of
>> > Alphington:
>> >
>> > "Frances Sercombe apprenticed to Edward Hillier for an estate
>> called
>> > Spillers in Alphington in Housewifery in the parish of Ide"
>> >
>> > Will Frances be learning housewifery in Alphington or in Ide? And
>> how
>> > does the other place come into it?
>> >
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