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From: "Edna" <>
Subject: [DEV] picturing what it was like!
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:03:41 -0500
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Hi, Baptism could be done privately and we can't always locate that.
I have a case where all the children got baptised early except one and it
was done later...

Edna - Ottawa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Mugford" <>
To: "Edna" <>; "Devon Mailing List" <>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DEV] picturing what it was like!


I have a family that Christened their first two children but there is no
record whatever of their third. To Robert and Ann Mugford was born another
Robert in 1748, and the a Joan in 1750. Both were baptised in Clovelly,
Devon. Then unexpectedly there is a burial of 4 yr old Joan in 1854. Out
of the blue I find another Joan Mugford who marries in 1783 whose wedding is
witnessed by Robbert Mugford, her father! The mystery is solved when her
birth year is given as 1754. She is the sister of the first Joan, named
after her recently deceased sister by two grief stricken parents. Is this
why they never baptised her? Who know what reason lies behind her not being
taken to church.

Fascinating stuff.
Antony


----- Original Message -----
From: "Edna" <>
To: "Anne Speight" <>; "Devon Mailing List"
<>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:06 PM
Subject: [DEV] picturing what it was like!


> Hi, I just adore those period movies of Jane Austen's books, etc.
> I enjoy the stories but I'm really looking at the costumes, furniture,
> countryside of the day.
> There is one beautiful scene where the couple is getting married (Pride
> and
> Prejudice) and the whole village turns out with such gaiety and everyone
> goes wild. I just loved it.
>
> Edna ~ Ottawa
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Speight" <>
> To: "Devon Mailing List" <>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:46 PM
> Subject: [DEV] picturing what it was like!
>
>
> I am trying to picture in my mind the ocassion of a baby being baptised
> 19th
> century style.
>
> Take for example WALTER PINE who was born 17th March 1830 and baptised at
> Littleham, Exmouth on 11th April.
>
> His parents lived in a cottage on the beach, which was perhaps almost 2
> miles away from the church. Presumably they would have walked along muddy
> /
> dusty paths cum tracks carrying the baby. With them also their other
> children - boys aged 2yrs, 4yrs, 5yrs, 7yrs, girls aged 9yrs, 11yrs,
> 13yrs
> and then the older boys aged 12yrs and 15yrs. Quite a crowd. Do you think
> all the family would attend - in their Sunday best?
>
> Dad was a mariner, I think responsible for the ferry that took people
> across
> the estuary, so maybe the oldest lad was left at home in charge of the
> ferry
> ? The 12 year old was also a mariner so maybe he was away from home
> working
> on a different boat ?
>
> The mum of the family came from Venn Ottery so I don't think there would
> have been any extended family around on her side, but maybe some of the
> Pine
> family were there, perhaps a grandparent or aunt/uncle. At this time was
> the
> baptism part of the normal service, would other people from Exmouth have
> attended or would it have been a special service just for family and close
> friends? How long might the service have been?
>
> Whatever occured, when the next child was baptised presumably the whole
> thing was re-enacted.
>
> What kind of charges were made by the vicar for baptism, weddings and
> funerals? Would church bells have been rung? Would that cost extra?
> Would a family like this have routinely gone to church each Sunday in
> 1830?
>
> It was such a different kind of age I find the whole thing difficult to
> picture. In 1830 none of this family would have been able to read or
> write -
> well no, possible the children may have had some sort of schooling......
>
> What do you think?
>
> Anne.
>
>
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