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From: "Anne Peat" <>
Subject: Re: [DEV] Sojourners
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:46:36 +0100


And I have two marriages, one in Kingsbridge ( couple seem to have
originated from Tiverton, and went back there ) and another in Wellington,
Somerset ( again couple went later to Tiverton ) where both were 'of this
parish, sojourners' and the marriage was by banns.
Anne

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>From: "B Young \(Sewing Specialties\)" <>
>To:
>Subject: Re: [DEV] Sojourners
>Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2003, 6:48 am
>

> I have a marriage in 1781 in Sheepwash, when both are shown as 'sojourners'
> but they were married by banns. She died 16 years later still in the same
> parish, 5 children having been born there, so they sojourned a long time!
>
> Beryl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Churchill" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [DEV] Sojourners
>
>
>> >From "Ancestral Trails", by Mark D. Herber!
>>
>> Being "of the parish" or "otp" really meant being "legally settled", or
>> entitled to "poor relief".
>>
>> The Settlement Act of 1662 was designed to overcome the problem of large
>> numbers of vagrants/temporary/migrant workers becoming a burden on
>> parish funds in the event of their needing relief from starvation. The
>> Act stated that a person was only entitled to relief from the parish if
>> they were:
>>
>> A. Someone who held office or paid the parish rate,
>> B. Someone who rented property worth more than 10 pounds,
>> C. An unmarried person who had worked in the parish for one year,
>> D. A woman who married a man of the parish,
>> E. A legitimate child, aged under 7, whose father lived in the parish,
>> F. A child who was illegitimate and born in the parish,
>> G. An individual apprenticed to a master in the parish, or
>> H. A person resident in the parish for 40 days after having given the
>> parish authorities prior written notice of his intention to settle.
>>
>> Disputes regarding legal settlement were examined by Justices of the
>> Peace who could issue removal orders for people to be sent back to their
>> legal parish of settlement. In many cases this continued even after
>> 1834 when parish Unions & workhouses came into being and apparently the
>> practice continued into the early 20th century!
>>
>> Records of those who were residents of a parish are contained in
>> surviving copies the settlement registers.
>>
>> As for the marriage of two Sojourners in a parish, I think that they
>> could not be married by Banns. I have been told that one of them had to
>> be "of the parish" for Banns to be used. Obviously, would anyone of a
>> parish necessarily know if a Sojourner from another parish had
>> impediments that would preclude a marriage?
>>
>> If your ancestors were both Sojourners, I believe they would have needed
>> a license for marriage. Possibly someone could comment about that.
>>
>> I say, look for a license.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill Churchill
>> USA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Cross [mailto:]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:30 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: [DEV] Sojourners
>>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I visited the Exeter Records Office last week in search of my Brixham
>> ancestors. One of the things that struck me was the use of the phrase
>> 'sojourner in this parish' in the records of marriage banns. I had not
>> come across this in Yorkshire, where most of my research has been.
>>
>> Is there a definition of a sojourner? Presumably it is someone not of
>> the Parish, but does it mean they are living there at the time of the
>> banns, and if so, how long would you have to live somewhere before
>> becoming 'of this parish', rather than a soujourner? My ggg
>> grandparents, Thomas PALMER and Johanna TAYLOR were both sojourners in
>> the Parish of St. Mary's, Brixham at the time of their marriage in 1819,
>> so I would guess that at least one of them must have been living there
>> if they were married there.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts gratefully recieved.
>>
>> Martin Cross
>> Brighton, UK
>>
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