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From: "B Young \(Sewing Specialties\)" <>
Subject: Re: [DEV] Sojourners
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:48:43 +1200
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I have a marriage in 1781 in Sheepwash, when both are shown as 'sojourners'
but they were married by banns. She died 16 years later still in the same
parish, 5 children having been born there, so they sojourned a long time!

Beryl

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Churchill" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [DEV] Sojourners


> >From "Ancestral Trails", by Mark D. Herber!
>
> Being "of the parish" or "otp" really meant being "legally settled", or
> entitled to "poor relief".
>
> The Settlement Act of 1662 was designed to overcome the problem of large
> numbers of vagrants/temporary/migrant workers becoming a burden on
> parish funds in the event of their needing relief from starvation. The
> Act stated that a person was only entitled to relief from the parish if
> they were:
>
> A. Someone who held office or paid the parish rate,
> B. Someone who rented property worth more than 10 pounds,
> C. An unmarried person who had worked in the parish for one year,
> D. A woman who married a man of the parish,
> E. A legitimate child, aged under 7, whose father lived in the parish,
> F. A child who was illegitimate and born in the parish,
> G. An individual apprenticed to a master in the parish, or
> H. A person resident in the parish for 40 days after having given the
> parish authorities prior written notice of his intention to settle.
>
> Disputes regarding legal settlement were examined by Justices of the
> Peace who could issue removal orders for people to be sent back to their
> legal parish of settlement. In many cases this continued even after
> 1834 when parish Unions & workhouses came into being and apparently the
> practice continued into the early 20th century!
>
> Records of those who were residents of a parish are contained in
> surviving copies the settlement registers.
>
> As for the marriage of two Sojourners in a parish, I think that they
> could not be married by Banns. I have been told that one of them had to
> be "of the parish" for Banns to be used. Obviously, would anyone of a
> parish necessarily know if a Sojourner from another parish had
> impediments that would preclude a marriage?
>
> If your ancestors were both Sojourners, I believe they would have needed
> a license for marriage. Possibly someone could comment about that.
>
> I say, look for a license.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Churchill
> USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Cross [mailto:]
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:30 AM
> To:
> Subject: [DEV] Sojourners
>
> Dear list,
>
> I visited the Exeter Records Office last week in search of my Brixham
> ancestors. One of the things that struck me was the use of the phrase
> 'sojourner in this parish' in the records of marriage banns. I had not
> come across this in Yorkshire, where most of my research has been.
>
> Is there a definition of a sojourner? Presumably it is someone not of
> the Parish, but does it mean they are living there at the time of the
> banns, and if so, how long would you have to live somewhere before
> becoming 'of this parish', rather than a soujourner? My ggg
> grandparents, Thomas PALMER and Johanna TAYLOR were both sojourners in
> the Parish of St. Mary's, Brixham at the time of their marriage in 1819,
> so I would guess that at least one of them must have been living there
> if they were married there.
>
>
> Any thoughts gratefully recieved.
>
> Martin Cross
> Brighton, UK
>
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