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From: "Peter PHILLIPS" <>
Subject: Re: Kingsand - Parish or Town!!
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:05:24 +0000


Date forwarded: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:39:41 -0800 (PST)
Date sent: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:43:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Burgoyne <>
Subject: Re: Kingsand - Parish or Town!!
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> On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Brian Randell wrote:
>
> > >Can anyone tell me where Kingsand is? And is it a town or a Parish?
> > >According to the 1851 my g.g. grandmother Mary Ann Ackman was born in
> > >Kingsand - Devon.
> > >
> > >Is Kingsand in Devon or Cornwall? I need to know before research can
> > >continue!
> >
> > A way to answer this sort of question, at least with regard to Devon, is to
> > check the Online Devon Gazetteer in GENUKI/Devon - you'll find a link to it
> > near the top of the GENUKI/Devon home page, which is at
> > http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/DEV.
>
> Not much help there!
>
> Kingsand is now in Cornwall, but is on the promontory that sticks out to
> the South West of Plymouth Sound, which I think is part of Maker Parish,
> which was part of Devon until ...? I suppose when boat travel was the
> norm it would almost have been a suburb of Plymouth, but now it is quite a
> long car journey to get from one to the other.
>
> I am not sure when Maker was transferred from being a detached part of
> Devon to being part of Cornwall - perhaps others can help/correct what I
> have said.
>
> Chris Burgoyne
>
>
>

If you walk along the village street that links Cawsand with Kingsand, on a cottage wall (near the inn),
you will see a 'D\C' mark indicating the line of the old boundary. I think the cottage is 'Boundary
cottage'. When I last was there, is was a red mark on the white cottage wall.

I believe the detached part was transferred under a Victorian Act which transferred detached parts of
counties, including those areas of Devon now in Dorset, and vice versa

It is only recently that the Tamar has been regarded as the 'natura'l boundary. An area just west (sic)
of the current Saltash bridge used to be in Cornwall with a Boundary Inn there.

In addition, currently we have North Tamerton that projects west of the Tamar and Bridgrule that
projects east of the Tamar.

Until the ?1970s, just north of Launceston, the boundary had a large projection east into along the
?Otter (I don't have my OS map to hand) to include North Petherwin within Devon.

Peter Phillips

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