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From: "Dan Bravard" <>
Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Searching for KEIFER ancestors from OFFENBURG
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:58:25 -0400
References: <424E0A94.5020306@amason.net> <016a01c537b0$29346ac0$2a429e04@S0029330476>


DJW and Brian:

I have the rolls in question on permanent loan at my local FHC and would be
quite willing to look up a few entries. However, with the rather lengthy
description below could you summarize what you want me to look up? It would
make things easier for me.

Thanks.

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "djweber" <>
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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Searching for KEIFER ancestors from OFFENBURG


> Brian,
>
> After your original question on the B-W List, I imagine I did the same
> rough
> investigation as you. I went to the <
> http://ortenau.speedyspace.de/search/
> >, looked at the town of Urloffen, then went on to Dan Bravard's
> >identified
> page at < http://www.oatney.org/Urloffen_Germany.htm >. From having been
> at
> that page before, I knew that Dan's Kieffer ancestors preceded my search
> in
> time, as I remembered his connection was of the late 1600s. Wanda Ridge
> had
> offered you some details after the B-W message but that ring/group did
> have
> a couple of other Kieffer/Kiefer entries and perhaps someone there might
> help you.
>
> I had told you that after I had found my connection to Kieffer in the
> 1703-1705 period that I had attemptd to work a downward tree from that
> family (of Jakob Kieffer and Margaretha Saur who is a daughter and sister
> of
> two of my direct ancestors) but that family tree is only about 4 to 5
> generations and I have practically no information into the 1800s, let
> alone
> your 1844 birth year.
>
> My group of Extended Films at my local LDS have been decimated as a result
> of the lack of space there and the large volume of use at that LDS FHC. I
> have left only about twenty-five per cent of the films I once had but that
> remaining amount includes fours rolls of Urloffen Church Registers films,
> none of which are late enough in time to give you any answers. I do not
> have any middle 1800s records but....
>
> film 0949963 does include an index for baptisms from 1786-1900 according
> to
> the LDS catalog. In checking that film for the year 1844, the baptistm of
> a
> Ludovika Kiefer is identified. By then the name Kieffer had varied down
> to
> Kiefer and while "Ludovika" would not be the exact logical and normal
> spelling, it is a variant on the feminine of the masculine name
> Ludovic/Ludwig (Louis) and in America, could have been Louise.
>
> You need to check into LDS film 0949964 to confirm the baptism/birth and
> determine the parents.
>
> As for the marriage of the parents, without the baptismal record
> identifying
> the exact parents, there is no roll of film which would help. Also, we
> don't know if your Louise Kiefer was the first or the fifteenth child born
> of the marriage so we don't know how long the parents were married prior
> to
> her 1844 birth.
>
> However, from another index, this time for marriages, we do know that in
> 1843 a Bernard (probably Bernhard) Kiefer and a Monica Reinbold (perhaps
> Rheinbold) were married in Urloffen but in the prior several years, other
> Kiefer males married women named Maria Anna, Maria Anna and Maria
> Magdalena.
> We are still at the point where you need to research those Urloffen films
> unless someone on this List or through Dan's contacts happens to have a
> connection for you.
>
> djweber
>
>
>
>
>
>


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