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From: "Diane" <>
Subject: Re: [CULLEN] Cardinal Paul Cullen & Cardinal Patrick Moran links toMurphys of Wexford
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:30:02 -0400
It sounds like we're at similar brick walls in our quest. Attached is a
copy of my great grandfathers obit from the Cleveland Leader Newspaper in
Cleveland, Ohio, USA. This states that he was the first cousin of Cardinal
Paul Cullen and a Sir John Lawrence Murphy of Dublin. My brick wall is who
are Edwards parents?? I know who all of his children were from a cousin
that lived in Hawaii (now deceased) and from census records.
I also found some info from a couple of books. One was written by a Mary
Leadbeater and is called "The Annals of Ballitore, a Cottage Biography". I
bought that Eason & Son Ltd. in Dublin, Ire. This book lists a number of
stories on the folks that resided in and around Ballitore, county Kildare
and county Wicklow. Another was Paul Cullen and his contemporaries and the
Reportorium Novum. I got the latter two from an interlibrary loan.
>From your last name, it is sounds like you are from the maternal line of
Murphy's, I am from the maternal line of Cullen's. My mother's maiden name
was Cullen, her father was Herbert Cullen and his father was Edward (the one
I attached the obit of). I have also seen his name listed in many of the
census records as Edmund Cullen, so he may have just gone by either name.
I'm sure you're familiar with Jim Cullens website and that contains a wealth
of information too. My great grandfather was born in 1840 in Kingstown, Ire
(formerly known as and currently called Dun Laoghaire). This is in Dublin
and is a large shipping port from what I can gather.
Good luck in your search and keep in touch.
-- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Fleming" <>
To: "Rootsweb - Carlow" <>; "Rootsweb - Cullens"
<>; "Rootsweb - Kildare" <>;
"Rootsweb - Wexford" <>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: [CULLEN] Cardinal Paul Cullen & Cardinal Patrick Moran links to
Murphys of Wexford
> Hi all,
> Can anyone help me out through a brick wall.
> My great-grandfather, William Michael Murphy [1949-1936] was born in Co.
> Wexford according to his
> Royal Irish Constabuluary record. He joined in 1869.
> His father was Pat Murphy, a farmer. His sponsor for the RIC was John Rowe
> JP, who was a large scale
> landholder in Co. Wexford. Griffith Valuation shows a Patrick Murphy
> renting 22 acres of land at
> Moortown Great in the parish of Tomhaggard from John Rowe in 1853. I have
> no idea how long Pat had
> lived in Co. Wexford or even if he had been born there.
> But family folklore suggests that this side of the family were connected
> to Cardinal Paul Culllen.
> This brings me to Co. Carlow and Co. Kildare.
> John Murphy could be the link with my Murphys.
> His daughter, Elizabeth was 2nd wife of Captain Hugh Cullen [1860?-1832].
> She was born in Muine Bheg [Bagnalstown], Co Carlow before 1772
> Hugh was son of Edmond Cullen [1717-1819] & Alicia Kinsella d.1793 of
> Hugh Cullen was father of Paul Cullen [1803-1878] of Prospect or
> Narramore, Co. Kildare, future
> Cardinal Archbishop of Armagh & later Dublin, with his first wife, Mary
> Maher [1773-1845]. They had
> about 15 children in all.
> Hugh and Elizabeth had at least 3 children, one of whom was Alicia Mary
> Cullen [1791-1831].
> Alicia first married a man called Murphy [1764?-bef. 1819]. He was
> possiblily a cousin/nephew of
> Elizabeth Cullen [Murphy].
> Alicia then married Patrick Moran [1790?-1841]. They had at least 3
> daughters and 2 sons, among whom
> was Patrick Moran [1830-1911], future Cardinal Archbishop of Sydney.
> If anybody can shed light on the unnamed Murphy - husband of Alicia - I am
> hoping he might be our
> Patrick Murphy, but any suggestions will be investigated.
> Also any leads on John Murphy will be welcome. Can anybody help me link
> the Carlow Murphys to Pat
> Murphy of Mooortown Great, Co. Wexford.
> Dave Fleming
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