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From: "Joyce G. Reece" <>
Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Trail of Tears
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:46:47 -0400
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YOu might find them on a list when they were moved from Arkansas to
Oklahoma....if you get lucky.

Joyce Gaston Reece

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From: "Beverly Birdwell" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Trail of Tears



Can anyone tell us where we can get further information about the Old
Settlers Roll? I have ancestors listed by last name on the roll, along with
a family number. Can anyone tell us how to find out the family information
and the first names?
Thanks, bev in CA

> From: > To: > Date:
> Fri, 9 May 2008 16:16:15 -0400> Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Trail of
> Tears> > > Old Settler Roll ~ 1851 History Cherokee IndiansA listing of
> Cherokee, still living in 1851, who were already residing in Oklahoma when
> the main body of the Cherokee arrived in the winter of 1839, as a result
> of the Treaty of New Echota. Approximately one third of the Cherokee
> people at that time were Old Settlers and two thirds were new arrivals.>
> Drennen Roll ~ 1852 History Cherokee IndiansThe first census of the new
> arrivals of 1839. The New Echota Treaty group.>
> Source:http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/rolls.htm>; From:
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:55:39 -0400> To:
> > Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Trail of
> Tears> > > I think you meant the Drennen Roll, not the Old Settler Roll,
> being the ones > who traveled the Trail of Tears. The Old Settlers came
> before the Trail of > Tears.> > In a message dated 5/8/2008 4:52:08 P.M.
> Central Daylight Time, > writes:> > The 1835
> Cherokee Roll (Henderson Roll) was a census that was taken before > the
> last military removal of the Cherokee Indians from the southeastern USA in
> > the winter of 1838-39. Not everyone's name that appears on this roll
> walked > the Trail of Tears. Some of them remained in their homeland. The
> Old > Settlers' Roll of 1851 for the Cherokee were the ones who walked the
> Trail of Tears > and also it listed some of their descendants. As things
> go, some of the ones > on the 1851 roll could have come out to Indian
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