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From: Frances Bishop <>
Subject: Re: [ONTARIO-IRISH] Where oh where in County Armagh?
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 22:28:44 -0700
Thanks very much for your generous response to my query.
I really appreciate your time and your kindness.
I will follow your leads as time permits.
Special thanks for pointing out the most valuable sources for surname
Wishing you all blessings of the Easter season,
>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:13:47 -0700
>From: "Pat Connors" <>
>Subject: Re: [ONTARIO-IRISH] Where oh where in County Armagh?
>Well, Irish genealogy is certainly a challenge since so few pieces of the
>censuses survived earlier than 1901 and civil registration didn't begin till
>1864. For your time date, only church records, if they survived, give us
>definitive proof of our ancestrial roots.
>One of the most aggravating issues about the church records, is only the
>Heritage Centres have them indexed and you have to pay them to do a search
>and then you have to hope that whoever transcribed the records, did so
>correctly. Be warned, there are errors in all the county indexes. Here is
>the site for County Armage where you can pay for a search:
>This site also lists all the available church records and their dates.
>Now, there are some things you can do using Family History Library Films
>and/or cd's. But, even if you think you find your family, you won't have
>'proof'. However, it will give you an idea what area to look at church
>records. Here is a site that also give dates of RC parish records plus the
>FHL film number if available:
>The Tithe Applotments were conducted in County Armagh between 1825-1835.
>They list all landholders (head of households). They have been filmed by
>civil parish, however, for Northern Ireland, they have been indexed. I have
>the cd and if you contact me off list, I'll do a lookup for you.
>After the tithes,there is the Griffith's Valuation, which is much like the
>tithe apploments. The index for these are online at:
>They were conducted 1850s-60s, mostly 1860s in Co. Armagh.
>Searching the tithes and the GV will give you an idea where your surnames
>were found in County Armagh. From there you can search the church records,
>Pat Connors, Sacramento CA
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