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From: "Jim-Almquist" <>
Subject: Re: [FRONTENAC] 1861 Census
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:36:30 -0600
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Thanks for the replies. I requested a "second opinion" on this as this is
the first time I successfully used the Canadian census, AND Margaret is a
family member previously unknown. I wanted to get as much information and
guesses out of this record as possible as she was never mentioned in any of
our families notes.
There was another "daughter" listed on the census, also previously unknown
to any of my family researchers. The balance of the family showed up in
Jefferson County, NY on the 1865 census, but the not the two "unknowns" on
the 1861 Canadian census.
Oh woe is me! Thanks again - Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "MaxandMarilynSutherland" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FRONTENAC] 1861 Census


> Jim:
>
> I'm afraid this doesn't surprise me. In fact, it causes me (no offense
> intended) to yawn. I've found countless examples - and just in one town in
> Lanark County - in which parents have listed their mature, independent
> children, some of whom are thousands of miles away and others who are over
> in the next concession or village.
>
> The answer to a census taker's question depended on how the question was
> phrased. "What people are normally residents of this household?" is a far
> different question from "What children do you have?" or "Who are your
> family?" I've found lots of double enumerations, where grown-up children
> appear for a second time because they are actually living, some of them
with
> children of their own, in another part of the County.
>
> It's a jungle out there, believe me, and the problem gets worse in the
later
> 1800s, when census takers are paid by the number of names they
> collect......... But I mustn't get started - describing the possibilities
> for errors in census returns could fill a book.
>
> Max
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [FRONTENAC] 1861 Census
>
>
>
> > If her husband was away, she may have returned to her mother's home for
a
> visit (especially if she was expecting a child). In that case, the
> enumerator made an error in the last name. (Look for a birth that year).
>
> Or could she be a daughter-in-law or the wife of another relative?
>
> > From: "Jim-Almquist" <>
> > Date: 2003/09/11 Thu PM 09:08:38 EST
> > To:
> > Subject: [FRONTENAC] 1861 Census
> >
> > In Portland Twp, enumerated in the family of Patrick and Catherine
ELLIOT,
> > is (probably) a daughter listed as:
> > Margaret Elliott, b. Ireland, religion "E", Residence if out of Limits =
> U.
> > S., age 17, female, married.
> > Can anyone suggest an explanation as to why this married "daughter" is
> > listed with her maiden surname? Or why she is even listed if she is
> living
> > in the U S?
> > The "Residents - Members of Family" total, (male + female) equals the
> number
> > of ELLIOTS enumerated.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jim
> >
> >
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