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From: Suzy <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] How does one research Ephrata names?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:45:47 -0500
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Thanks, Merle,

Sorry for the delay in answering- I spent the weekend at Allen Co Public Library. Not quite, but it seemed like it!

I have seen that book (or possibly a selected transcription, or as you inferred, an index), and he's not on it...not only that, but there appears to be zero interaction between Jacob Schmucker + family and those Brethren once they settled in Cumberland/Bedford/Somerset. :(

Suzy









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From: Merle C Rummel <>
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Sent: Sat, Feb 26, 2011 5:38 am
Subject: Re: [BRE] How does one research Ephrata names?


On 2/25/2011 11:26 PM, Suzy wrote:

> Thank for your answers, Bill, N. H. and Gale. I have perused the listings

on the COB site, and the other lists, but am still combing through the Ephrata

book which I had never seen before.

>

> I only have a small window of perhaps 8 years: 1768-1776 the time when ha was

a semi-adult (probably on his own, but it's not certain) but before he was

present and accounted for in Somerset Co (Bedford at the time). The only thing

I really have is that his wife was in or near Carlisle in 1779 when his son John

was born. (Jacob is in Somerset as early as 1776 when he was on a tax list, so

I am not sure how that happened.) I know other Schmucker researchers have

combed though things long before this, but I keep hoping his name will magically

appear. ;)

>

> Thaks of rht e replies, though. It's very interesting.

>

> Suzy Smucker Wert

> Indianapolis



One other complication - The Chronicon normally does not use use actual

names, the person would choose or be given a religious name - seemingly

far different from their actual name. I'd have to check - but as I

remember, Alexander Mack Jr was called "Brother Timotheus"



A connected movement was that of Elder George Adam Martin. He had

connections to Ephrata, but was somewhat separate. As I understand, he

never was IN the Ephrata Cloisters. He was a leading Pietist, as

opposed to the increasing Anabaptism of the Brethren Elders, probably

was Sabbatarian. He had frequent disagreements with the Brethren

Elders, they deemed him a serious problem. He was baptized in 1735 at

the Conawago Church (Ephrata locale), was at the 1737 Great Swamp

meeting with Conrad Biessel. as an Elder, he was sent by Elder Martin

Urner, to Zinzendorf's Moravian Synod, as a/the Brethren

Representative. In 1762 he was at the Bermudian Church. He helped

found the Snow Hill Nunnery on the Antietam (a Seventh Day extension of

Ephrata - only recently closed). In 1763 he and Elder Peter Miller went

to Brothers Valley (Cumberland Co - later Bedford [1771]/Somerset [1795]

PA). A migration of Brethren went there about that time (?followed him

there?).



I've only peripherally followed your correspondence - but have you

checked Austin Cooper's 2 Centuries in Brohers Valley? - I do not have a

name indexed copy (one of Austin's first printing).



Merle C Rummel



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