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Subject: Re: [BRE] Christophel Kalckglasser, m. Maria Mack
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:45:00 -0600
Dwayne,
Something makes me want to say that leisel, losel, etc. is a term of
affection in German. It seems like I remember something along those
lines but I searched for forms of that term in Google and couldn't find
what I was looking for. My German-Elnglish dictionary has the following.
liese -- soft, quiet, gentle.
So that makes a certain amount of sense, but it's not proof by any means.
David Myers
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:04:51 -0500 "Dwayne Wrightsman"
<> writes:
> David,
>
> What Alexander Mack Jr. recorded in his list of deaths was (as
> transcribed
> in English): "Bro. Christopher Kalckloeser and his wife, the
> sister."
> (Source: The Day Book/Account Book of Alexander Mack, Jr.
> (1712-1803),
> Kutztown, The Pennsylvania German Society, 2004, p. 95. The
> transcription
> in German (p. 33) is much more interesting: "Br Christophel
> Kalckglser und
> swin Weib die sh. Mariahlsel." This could explain the entry in
> Brumbaugh.
>
> Do you suspect that there were two marriages: first, Maria Mack,
> and
> second, Maria Leisel, or that there were two Christopher
> Kalckloesers? In
> my opinion, Christopher was married to Maria Mack when they came
> over on the
> Ship Allen. I say this for two reasons. First there is the matter
> of the
> marriage record which we have uncovered. Second there was the
> positioning
> of the wives and other women on the Ship: Maria [nee Mack?]
> Kalklieser was
> next to Anna Margaret Mackin who in turn was next to Phillipina
> Mackin (see
> List A). I believe that all three of these Mack women were sisters,
>
> although I don't know who their parents were.
>
> This Kalckglser family is extremely difficult to figure out. If
> you look
> at Brumbaugh, p. 399, you will find a "Ludwig Kalckglaeser and wife"
> in a
> list of the early Conestoga Brethren. Their identities are
> explained by no
> one to my knowledge. Usually the men's names include Johann
> Heinrich,
> Christoffel, and Emmanuel.......but Ludwig?????? Who was he?
>
> Dwayne Wrightsman
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