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From: Jane Davis <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] southern migration
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:55:50 -0700
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Robert Carpenter--Your letter of Dec 13 2007 mentions a past posting of Brethren who came to N. Carolina and that many of them went on to Cape Girardeau, MO. I have only one group who arrived in Cape G. on Jan 1, 1800 directly from N. Car. Others spent time in KY first. Do you have others who came directly from N. Car. to MO? Jane Davis.

> From: > To: > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:43:24 -0500> Subject: Re: [BRE] southern migration> > I continue to research the Dunker settlements pre and post Revolution west > of the Catawba River in present Lincoln, Gaston, and Catawba Counties in > North Carolina.> > The earliest Dunker settlement of the middle 1750's named Killians > Settlement is well documented. After the American Revolution this area > experienced a major influx of German Baptists who settled the South Fork > River Valley. Two Dunker preachers ministered to these settlers in two > churches, both of which were named Thessalonica. The two Dunker preachers > were Rev. Henry Rhodes and Rev. Lorentz Linhardt (Leonhardt).> > I have posted before for clues as to where these two ministers came from. I > have also posted some of the Dunker migrants to determine where they > originated before coming to North Carolina.> > If anyone has information about these two ministers, I would appreciate it. > Also, I understand and would like confirmation: Neither of these Dunker > ministers, Henry Rhodes or Lorentz Linhardt (Leonhardt), are listed in the > Brethren Encyclopedia. Can anyone confirm that for me? Are they listed or > not?> > Many of these Brethren who came after the Revolution removed to Ashe County, > NC and to Cape Girardeau County, Missouri. Others remained here and the > families still reside here even though their Dunker heritage is no longer > known.> > I appreciate any assistance.> > Robert Carpenter> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merle C Rummel" <>> To: <>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:40 AM> Subject: Re: [BRE] southern migration> > > > by 1740s (11+ years after Alexander Mack and ship arrived) there were> > Brethren in the deep south. They followed the Great Wagon Road - which> > ran from Philadelphia to Gettysburg PA to Hagarstown MD. They crossed> > the Potomac at Williamsport and followed the Valley Road to Big Lick> > (Roanoke) where Alexander Mack Jr and company fled to in 1745 - Dunker's> > Bottom at Blacksburg. They traveled through the gap to east of the Blue> > Ridge mountains and followed the Carolina Road -to the Yadkin. The> > Brethren did not stop in Virginia until just before the Revolution, due> > to the requirements of the Royal Colony, which included the "state> > church" (Church of England, Anglican).> >> > There was considerable settlement by the Brethren along the Yadkin> > (almost certainly by then including the Boones), and by the 1750s they> > folllowed it into South Carolina (where it was called the Pee Dee).> > Other Brethren settled along the Catawba River in both North and South> > Carolina, and some of them moved over to the Savannah River, and across> > it into Georgia. These families were mostly lost to the Brethren Church> > in the disputes of the late 1700s (1790-96 Annual Meeting actions> > against Universalism -coming from our Pietist emphasis, primarily led by> > Elder David Martin, son of Elder George Adam Martin of Somerset Co PA).> > Many of these families moved west into Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama and> > Mississippi (especially as the Indians were removed -although there were> > intermarriages with the Cherokee).> >> > I'm done teaching College now (well, Finals and Term papers to grade)> > -nothing scheduled for next semester - so will get back to finishing my> > book on the early Frontier Brethren (Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana mostly).> > It is emphasizing the Brethren dispute with Annual Meeting of the 1820s,> > and the resulting loss of these Brethren (per historian Abraham Cassel -> > almost half of the denomination). A lot of these came from the> > Carolinas, although many came down the Ohio River from> > Pennsylvania/Maryland. It includes some Brethren moving into Tennessee> > and many families moving on further west (Illinois/Missouri). (These> > same families included members moving into the Deep South - by 1800 or> > soon after). Maybe they weren't Brethren by then, but they were the> > same Brethren families.> >> > Merle C Rummel> >> >> However, I am not aware of either family having descendents in Alabama in> >> the pre-Civil war days. The Deep South was not a typical migration> >> destination from PA or MD either (no easy way to get there for one > >> thing).> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------> > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN>; > ------------------------> > Support Our Sponsoring Agency> > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:> > ------------------------> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------> Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN>; ------------------------> Support Our Sponsoring Agency> The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG)> For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:> ------------------------> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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