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From: "Alice Hawrilenko" <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] Deeds don't always exist either so can't be counted oninplace of wills
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:59:21 -0500
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I had this experience with my Keedy clan. I believe I rounded them all up
when finally, in I found a cluster of 1868 quitclaim deeds signed by
everyone except those who were living on John Keedy's land in MO. It was a
wonderful find because it also brought another child into the picture who
had never shown up in the census. This find also narrowed down to a small
period of time the years when the family moved from TN to Indiana. It also
confirmed the minimum length of time in which the family lived in TN-in a
county with no records to speak of before 1912. Needless to say that was one
road trip that was worth every cent I spent and every one of the 1520 miles
I drove.
Alice
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Subject: [BRE] Deeds don't always exist either so can't be counted on
inplace of wills


>
> In many cases it seems that only one child took over the house or sold the
> house?and later (on his own, undocumented)?distributed the proceeds to the
> heirs.?
>
> In one case with my Revolutionary war era ancestor he left the home to his
> very youngest son, sired when he was a senior citizen, or about 65.? No
> deed was ever recorded.? His great granddaughters even grew up in that
> home, and both died in the last couple of years and were about 100 years.?
> But during their lives they claimed their grandfather was a grandson of
> the Rev. war man, not a son. That seemed strange to me, because that would
> have meant at the death of the Revolutionary war era ancestor his home
> should have been sold to a grandson then, which would have been a younger
> son of a middle son of the Revolutionary war era ancestor.? I later found
> out that the man they claimed descent from moved out west and died out
> there and was a different person, a nephew to their grandfather, so then
> deduced that the home had been left to the very youngest son.?Which was
> common, as was mentioned on this list. ?I doubt the chain of title if it
> could be found today would list any of th!
> e other numerous children if the deed had been drawn up during my
> Revolutionary war era ancestor's life, else these sisters would have known
> their real descent.? These deeds you mention as sometimes having much
> information are where the deceased dies possessed of real estate, and then
> the heirs dispose of the property.? But often the executor/administrator,
> often the oldest son, would sell the property in his own name and then
> probably distribute the proceeds later to all his siblings or their
> heirs.?
>
> I know there are some estates that will list all the heirs, and a few land
> documents with names of all the heirs, but this seems to have been the
> exception in PA.? So I don't think anyone should count on going to any
> courthouse to have all their questions answered.?Or if you go then go with
> low expectations, and with a skeptic eye. ?Even some people who live right
> in PA where their ancestors lived have their lines all messed up! These
> late elderly sisters' incorrect?family connections have been posted by
> their county's "historian", perpetuated now through numerous Rootsweb
> postings.? Its not the fault of anyone here, as no one would have thought
> of trying to extend their focus way out west to extended family who left
> PA. So I still think "irrefutable circumstantial evidence" is often the
> route most will have to take in documenting their PA Dutch families.
>
>
> Richard
>
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