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From: "Robert Carpenter" <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] Presbyterian
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:10:54 -0500
References: <000b01c73071$0c6805d0$6401a8c0@thomas01>

In the material I have seen which reference German Presbyterians they almost
always are describing a German Reformed Church. It is my understanding that
the Reformed faith derived most of its beliefs from Ulrich Zwingli, who
collaborated with John Calvin, but who also broke with him. This is
especially true of Swiss Germans.

In my area of North Carolina many Reformed congregations became Presbyterian
because of the scarcity of Reformed ministers and the presence of more
Presbyterian ministers. In addition as the 1820's and 30's came upon people
the German language became less a factor in defining religious persuasion.

That is my opinion,

Robert Carpenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Thomas" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: [BRE] Presbyterian

>I have on occasion seen the term 'Presbyterian' used in relation to
> Pennsylvania Germans. The German Reformed faith was based on the theology
> of John Calvin, as was the Presbyterian faith. Both follow a presbyterian
> form of church government which does not have the position of bishop (as
> opposed to an ecclesiastical form common to Catholics, Anglicans,
> Lutherans
> and Methodists). However, Presbyterians as a denomination were typically
> Scotch-Irish. The English version of Presbyterianism was the
> Congregational
> denomination, which included the Puritans.
> The question is; are references to Presbyterians in relation to
> Pennsylvania
> Germans a generic term used for Germans who in fact belonged to the German
> Reformed faith?
> Bill Thomas
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