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From: "Emmert F. Bittinger" <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] Re: Daniel Arnold
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:58:48 -0500
References: <20051222013929.15098.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com>


Sharon, the Daniel who married Agnes Stoner and whom you are looking for is
one of the sons of John George Arnold. This Daniel did not settle at Beaver
Run, but may have traveled there as a missionary minister. Emmert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Wheeler" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BRE] Re: Daniel Arnold


> Hello Emmert,
> I think I am confused now. The Daniel I am looking for info on is he the
> "signer" or not? Is he the Uncle of the "signer" Please help all confused.
> "Emmert F. Bittinger" <> wrote: Hello Merle,
> I just read your message regarding Daniel Arnold of Beaver Run,
> Hampshire County, W. Va. (still Virginia at that time). You made reference
> to this Daniel as being the one who baptized Peter Nead after his
> conversion
> to the Brethren. As you know, Peter Nead went on to be come the first
> "Theologian" of the Brethren and wrote several important theology books.
> You are correct about this Daniel, (1768- having baptized Nead. He and
> three brothers and two sisters of the Frederick County JOHN Arnold family
> had moved to Beaver Run church, established 1785, and still existing as
> the
> oldest church in the State.This church is in the South Branch Valley of
> the
> Potomac, but on a branch of the Potomac called Patterson Creek, which
> flows
> directly into the Potomac. The church is about 10 miles west of Romney,
> just north of US Route 50.
> HOWEVER, this is not the same Daniel who signed the Annual Conference
> statement relating to Catherine Hummer, This Daniel was of a previous
> generation and an Uncle of Daniel of Beaver Run, whose parents were John
> Arnold, son of John George. Daniel the "signer" was a brother of John who
> was the father of Daniel of Beaver Run.
> Don"t feel badly, as the German immigrants of this period nearly always
> used the same names in every generation, and when parents had 6-10
> children,
> many, many with the same names, one wonders how the members of the family
> could keep it all straight, let alone non family members!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Merle C Rummel"
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:35 PM
> Subject: [BRE] Re: Daniel Arnold
>
>
>>I had to wait till I could get in to the Library at Bethany Seminary -to
>>find out more info (I've stopped loaning my books -to students -since some
>>of my "important" ones have walked away).
>>
>> I wanted to check on the Daniel Arnold signature on the Catherine Hummer
>> paper. It is on the Annual Meeting response - which means that in 1823
>> Daniel Arnold was in important Brethren minister -and most likely an
>> Elder. It does not indicate what church he is from.
>>
>> (Catherine Hummer -had visions. Her father, the minister, Peter Hummer,
>> [White Oak Church] supported her, but there was considerable tension
>> resulting from what she said. Now this was not out of custom in the
>> Pietist Spiritualistic Brethrenism of the times -but it did tend more to
>> what was occuring at nearby Ephrata Cloisters -Conrad Beissel. The "Great
>> Meeting" condemned her only on the methods occurring during the visions -
>> only one other person was present - a single young man -with a single
>> young woman -they were later married.)
>>
>> I did find more on Daniel Arnold in Roger Sappington's Brethren in a New
>> Nation. pp. 124-5
>> from Peter Nead's Journal:
>>
>> July 28, 1823 - Peter Nead passed through Romney (now West Virginia) to
>> the home of Daniel Arnold - where he discussed various religious topics.
>>
>> June 14, 1824 - he was baptized in the Potomic River by Elder Daniel
>> Arnold
>>
>> (for some of you, Peter Nead was an important Brethren leader -living
>> here
>> in Ohio -in the 19th Century. Glenna Blackburn was a ggr granddaughter.)
>>
>> so we find out several things:
>> 1) Daniel Arnold was an Elder in 1824, before he moved to Brothers
>> Valley
>> (was it possible George Adam Martin didn't recognize his
>> Eldership? -and reinstalled him
>> again in 1829? Or did Peter Nead give him the title
>> inapropriately - I don't think so!)
>> 2) Daniel Arnold lived in the Potomac River valley near Romney Va/WVa
>> (there was then, and still is, a good Brethren church community
>> there!)
>> 3) Daniel Arnold was not part of George Adam Martin's migration to
>> Brothers Valley (1823)
>> although -according to Austin Cooper, he was part of Martin's
>> church once he got there.
>> 4) from other sources -George Adam Martin had at least one son living
>> in this general vicinity of the Potomac River -in West
>> Virginia (possibly there was some connection that way)
>> I neglected to pull out the copy of Allegheny Passage to see if Emmert
>> had
>> any information on
>> Daniel Arnold there.
>>
>> Merle C Rummel
>> Church Historian
>>
>>
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