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From: "Wendell Huffman" <>
Subject: Re: Hoover and Thomas families of Stark Co., OH 1820-1830
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:25:59 -0700
In-Reply-To: <200505070701.j47718ja013048@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Allow me to introduce myself as a descendant of Mary/Polly Hoover and Philip
Thomas who married at or near Canton, Stark County, Ohio on 12 July 1827. I
am seeking help in identifying their respective families.

The following is the little bit I know about their subsequent life:

I do not know birthdates or parents for either of these, nor for that matter
do I know their death dates. I believe the Philip Thomas (age between 30 and
39) with wife (age 20-29) and three children, living in Paris Township,
Stark County Ohio are my Philip and Polly/Mary (Hoover) Thomas.

They apparently moved from Stark to Coshocton County, Ohio by 1840, where I
find them living in Jackson Township (his stated age 30-39; wife 30-39).
According to the History of Coshocton County, Philip (and presumably
Mary/Polly) were living in Jackson Township, Coshocton County in 1849 when
their daughter Ellen E. married Robert Alexander Willman. They are the known
parents of my great-grandmother Sarah Amanda Willman.

According to the obituary of Philip and Mary/Polly Thomas son Philip F., he
and his parents moved to Clinton, Vermillion County, Indiana about 1850. The
Willmans ended up at Clinton as well. For any number of possible reasons I
do not find Philip and Mary/Polly Thomas in the 1850 census. However, they
MAY be back in Coshocton County, Ohio by 1860 (where they MAY have had other
children living). The Philip and Mary Thomas I find in 1860 living in White
Eyes Township, Coshocton County MAY be my Philip and Mary. His stated age is
59 (born Maryland); Marys is 52 (born Pennsylvania). I must emphasize:
these MAY NOT be my Philip and Mary.

Philip Thomas is found near Clinton, Indiana in 1870. Apparently widowed;
born in Ohio; and sixty-six years old. Both parents foreign born. He is also
in Clinton in 1880, then said to be eighty-one, birthplace not legible, both
parents born in Wales.

What makes this couple puzzling is that there were a number of different
Mary/Polly Hoovers living and marrying in Stark County between 1820 and
1830. They are:

1) Polly Hoover, m. Philip Thomas 12 Jul 1827. These are my ancestors.
2) Polly Hoover (b. 1810 PA-d. 1882) of Plain Twp., m. William
Coleman/Kuhlman 3 June 1828.
3) Mary Hoover, dau of Judge John Hoover, m. Anthony Housel. I do not have a
date for this wedding, but Judge Hoovers daughter Rebecca married in 1825
and Anna married (to another Thomas) in 1832 (this Thomas later married
Rebecca after their initial spouses had died).
4) Polly Hoover dau. of William Hoover of Paris Twp. m. 25 Dec 1823 Major
Henry Loutzenhisor [Ohio Repository 1 Jan 1824].
5) I also find on ancestry.com a record for the marriage of Mary Hoover to
John W. Thomas (other than her being born in Ohio in 1814, no information is
given; theirs MAY NOT be a Stark County marriage).

My immediate goal is to determine to which Hoover family Mary Thomas and
Mary Coleman belong.

I am unable to place either my Polly/Marry or the one who married William
Coleman/Kuhlman into their respective families, but I assume they belong to
one of the Hoovers listed in the 1830 Stark County census. They are (by
township):

Nimishillen Twp

Christian (born between 1761-1770), apparently the son of Adam H. Hoover; b.
1767 Franklin Co PA; moved to Nimishillen twp Stark Co. 1811; d. 1835. His
six children (David, Jacob, Esther, Elizabeth, John, Daniel) apparently do
not include a Mary.

William (born between 1781-1790). He MAY be a son of Adam H Hoover and
brother of Christian.
I found the following: "The Nimishillen church was organized by Bishop John
Gans in 1804.
From 1804 to 1825 services were held regularly at two week intervals in
the homes and barns of about 25 members -- David Snyder, Conrad Brumbaugh
(Joseph royer later bought Conrad Brumbaugh's home), David Ebie,
William Hoover, John Sheidler, Peter Ebie, Jacob Snyder, Martin Houser,
Joseph Schneider, Widow Thomas, George Swinehart, Andrew Christ,
Daniel Brown, Jacob Funk, Michael Flory, Widow Leiser, John Hershey,
David Bixler, John Thomas, Jacob Replogle, Jacob Bauer, John Garl,
Daniel Markley, Daniel Bowser, Joseph Showalter. (Brethren Roots, Winter
1998)" This may refer to this William--and links him with a couple of
Thomases.

John esq. (born between 1781-90). This was apparently the Judge John Hoover,
and apparently the John Hoover who was executor for Samuel Thomas of Plain
Twp. in 1822. He had a daughter who married a Thomas, and he had a daughter
Mary; but she was not the Mary who married my Philip Thomas.


Paris Twp

William (born between 1761-1770); he MAY be a son of Adam H. Hoover and
brother of Christian of Nimishillen Twp. He was apparently the father of the
Polly Hoover who married 25 Dec 1823 to Major Henry Loutzenhisor, and is
therefore not the father of my Marry/Polly.

Charles (born 1801-1810); apparently to young to have been the father of my
Mary.
William Jr. (born between 1801-1810); also to young to have been the father
of my Mary.

Sandy Twp

Solomon (born between 1781-1790); I have no idea where this guy belongs;
however, Sandy Township was almost adjacent to Paris Township.

Jonas (born between 1801-1810); again, no idea where he belongs, but he was
apparently too young to have fathered my Mary.

Lexington Twp

David (born between 1791-1800)

Marlboro Twp

David (born between 1801-1810); too young.
Jacob (born between 1801-1810); too young.

Plain Twp

John (born between 1801-1810); too young.


The apparent candidates as fathers of the two "stray" Mary/Pollys are:
William Hoover of Nimishillen, Solomon Hoover of Sandy, and David Hoover of
Lexington.

If any of you can help identify the father of Mary Thomas and Mary Coleman,
I will greatly appreciate it. Also, I'm sure I need help just figuring out
the relationship of all these Hoovers. I did not even mention my Thomases,
but I'm eager for information about them as well.

Wendell Huffman



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