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From: "Pat J." <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] Maria/Mary and John MARTIN
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:49:11 -0600
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James,

Thanks for joining in! I, too, have been sorting through notes and this is
why I'm back on this forum, again. I can't find that we ever came up with
conclusive answers on several of these children and marriages and every time
I get into it I get more confused. :-( In correspondence with Gale, I
found that I have very sketchy information on the parentage of Elizabeth
Martin Shively, who would be a direct ancestor of my husband. If her
parents were John Martin and Maria, I need have proof of both the parents of
John and Maria, which apparently leads to another 'can of worms'. We have
too many Stephen, Daniel, Susannah, Maria/Mary, etc. Ulrichs... And now I'm
sorting through Martins and Brumbaughs, too?

Pat J.


> Thank you for this information. If I understand it correctly, we can
> conclude either
>
> 1. we have John Nicholas Martin married to the wrong spouse
>
> or
>
> 2. The John Martin married to Mary Ulrich, daughter of Daniel, was not the
> son of Nicholas Martin born 1721.
>
> I found a note with some of the info I had stored away. It was from Diane
> Miller, dated June 17, 2003:
>
>>My information for the John Martin, Sr. line ... has not been verified.
>>However, various sources state that Jacob Shively, Sr., born 1767 married
>>Elizabeth Martin born 1772, daughter of John Martin and Maria Ulrich.
>
> I believe Gladys Royer was involved in that discussion, also, and I see a
> message from you about that same time.


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