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From: John McLeod <>
Subject: Re: [BRE] Re: Daniel Arnold
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:31:42 -0600
In-Reply-To: <126.307112ab.2c8b5f64@aol.com>


Thank you for the detailed explanation. There is no need to apologize to
me for long-windedness as I am famous for that myself. On this occasion,
unfortunately, I am forced to brevity by the imminence of our departure for
a lengthy tour in Europe, including some genealogy, but not on this branch
of my tree. I would very much like to resume after my return in November,
since I have serious problems over the origins of the Slifers at
Burkittsville. I think that there were 4 or 5 John Slifers, whose traces
are being compounded.

A careful reading of your treatise indicates that our disagreement is
merely over the middle name of the junior immigrant, who was presumably
still a minor at the time of immigration. My sources are so firm in
stating that his middle name was Peter that it did not occur to me that you
could have been referring to him as George. I have to admit that I have
not done original research on the Arnold family. I am relying on a
secondary source which appears to be of high quality: "A Pleasant View" by
H. Austin Cooper, Port City Press (Baltimore) 1998, available by writing to
the Pleasant View Church of the Brethren, Burkittsville, MD 21718.

Quoting from page 81 of that work; "John Peter Arnold, born in Germany, ca.
1725 and died 1790, married (1) Margaret Albaugh ...........daughter of
Zachariah Albaugh, Sr., of Frederick County, Maryland, a Dunker who had
migrated from near Amwell, New Jersey, .............On June 16, 1761, Adam
Neiff bought land from John Peter Arnold (see Bittinger, "History of
Pleasant View Church", 1955, pg.6) ..............On the night after Peter
Suman was hanged, August 21, 1781, John Peter Arnold secretly buried the
mutilated body in the Ausherman Cemetery at Arnoldstown. (Mr. George
Arnold once told this author that local people often addressed John as
Peter and John Peter.) Thus, the researcher will often see his name thusly
recorded................John Peter Arnold was a minister in the early
Pleasant View Church. He owned several farms in the Middletown Valley
before 1784.

At 12:03 PM 9/6/03 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 9/5/03 11:01:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
> > You have skipped a generation here. The Daniel Arnold who married
> > Elizabeth Thomas was a GRAND-son of immigrant John George Arnold &Anna
> > Maria Barth, and the son of John Peter Arnold &Margaret Albaugh. John
> > George Arnold did have a son named Daniel, to whom he is on record as
> > transferring property in 1754, half a generation BEFORE the birth of the
> > grandson to whom you are referring. There exists much confusion between
> > this uncle/nephew pair.
> >
>
>Morning John,
> Thank you for your thoughts and I will explain my conclusions based
>upon court records of which I have some and not others. Granted I do not have
>all of the deeds that would easily explain the connections but I will try.
>And
>yes I could be wrong but in this case I am also building upon the Arnold
>phamplet and some other articles.
> When John George Arnold(Johannes Gorg Arnold Jr.) arrived I also
>termed him as "the immigrant" which may be incorrect but as I do not have
>orginal
>records on the elder John George I do so in my own mind.
> The connection of the Daniel Arnold who married Elizabeth Thomas to
>Johan George Arnold who was married to Anna Margaret Albaugh can be
>established
>by the will of Johannes Gorg Arnold Jr. as well as by the book "Allegheny
>Passage."
> In the will of John George Arnold he clearly gives the names of his
>children. The result is that when he wrote his will on Aug. 25, 1785 it
>establishes that his children were Mary "Forguson" who was dead with five
>children;
>Mary Arnold, Susanna Ganse, Margaret Whip; Catharine Whip(my line); "Catrout"
>Arnold, Samuel Arnold; Zachariah Arnold; and Daniel Arnold. The will also
>establishes that his brother was Daniel Arnold as the land that he had
>bought from
>him was to pass to John George's son John. Furthermore it also demonstrates
>that Anna Margaret Albaugh was deceased as his wife was Catherine who had a
>daughter Mary "Ledwick". When John George Arnold signed the will he had
>made his
>mark as "IA" in the old Latin fashion which does not have the "J" but instead
>uses the "I".
> You had made the statement that Daniel, husband of Elizabeth Thomas,
>was the son of John Peter Arnold and Margaret Albaugh. The will as mentioned
>above does not state what the middle name of the testator was, only that his
>name was John Arnold.
> That it was John George Arnold, son of John George Arnold; and both
>immigrants; is shown in an article printed in "The Pennsylvania Genealogical
>Magazine" in their Sept. 1953 issue. This article deals with the
>disproving of
>the Samuel Arnold of Somerset county, Penn. as having been the son of
>Jonathan
>Arnold of Rhode Island.
> In the article it demonstrates that the Samuel Arnold of what
>eventually became Somerset county was a son of the elder John George
>Arnold. On Oct.
>3, 1752 the elder John George sold "Hogyard" to Samuel Arnold by his mark and
>that of his wife Mary A. Arnold(Anna Maria Barth). Samuel then later sold
>this
>same tract of land back to his father on Aug. 19, 1755 with no dower release
>by a wife. Samuel was probably married a short time later to his wife
>Elizabeth
>who is mentioned in the estate papers in Somerset county, Penn. in 1805. This
>can be established by a deed in 1758 when she is mentioned releasing her
>dower.
> It should be mentioned that in 1778 Samuel purchased the land later
>demised to his heirs from Samuel Finley of Washington county, Maryland.
>Several
>of the descendants of the elder John George were by that time living in
>Hagerstownas evidenced by some deeds recorded in that county. In the same
>article it
>also establishes who the children of the younger John George Arnold as
>mentioned in the will. But in the article it states that his name was John
>George
>Arnold.
> Turning to Allegheny Passage it states however that Samuel Arnold,
> son
>of Johannes Gorg Arnold and Anna Maria Barth, died in 1808 in Adams county,
>Pennsylvania. I have not pulled the original records in Somerset county,
>Penn.
>nor those of Adams county, Penn. so I can not making a clear assertation on
>where exactly Samuel Arnold died. I would lend more credence to Mr.
>Bittinger's
>book in this regard but take note of the 1953 report.
> It does in Mr. Bittinger's book clearly demonstrate that John Arnold
>and Anna Margaret Albaugh were the parents of the Arnold clan who moved to
>the
>Beaver Run area and were instrumental in the founding of that
>congregation.
>
> Granted there is no eveidence on this side of the ocean of what the
>middle name of John Arnold, husband of Anna Margaret Albaugh, may have
>been but
>in my mind I have always termed him as John George Arnold, son of Johannes
>Gorg Arnold and Anna Maria Barth. I am not infallible but I like to see
>documentation before I change my mind. Kind of funny that way.
> What is interesting in a moribund way is that this is the first time
>in all of the years I have belonged to the Brthren List that I have seen the
>Arnold family come up for discussion. The same also applies to your
>Slifers as
>well as the Leatherman family. I know for a certainty that the Leatherman and
>Arnold family were instrumental in the early foundation of the church in the
>Maryland area and that they influenced the formation of many of the churches
>that later expanded down into the Shenandoah valley of Virginia(as well as
>the
>Beaver Run side of the mountains) and those churches in western Pennsylvania.
> Sorry to be long winded.
>
>Wayne
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