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From: "willhn" <>
Subject: [BRADFORD-L] Re: First?
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:58:15 -0600


Was No problem on My part. I was just putting it on the list for
the enjoyment of the readers. Sorry if I mislead anyone into
thinking I had a problem with it. I personally thought it was
interesting. Particularly that the writer didn't know that the
first Thanksgiving at Plymouth probably wasn't until 1623. <g>
Harold Williams
Mesquite,TX (Dallas suburb)


-----Original Message-----
From: <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] First?

>Dear Willhn,
>
>What's the problem? "Common Knowledge" gives the date in the
article, not the
>newspaper. If C.K. were always correct, genealogy research
would be one hill
>of beans easier.
>
>And, before the east coast had much activity, all sorts of
events took place
>west of the Mississippi which are commonly ignored by American
History books.
>(Last time I looked we, here in California, are just as much a
part of the
>USofA as the "original 13.") Even as a very young child I was
bothered by
>that story of the Indian greeting the Pilgrims when they
arrived -- in good
>English yet! Then we visited Newfoundland where, when the
Pilgrims arrived,
>they had a thriving city already going. So Canada pre-dates
Massachusetts as
>well.
>
>As for the *first* Thanksgiving, people all over the world have
been having
>Feasts of Thanks to God for good harvests lo-o-o-o-ng before
Columbus, or even
>Leif Erikson, sailed west -- and that's God in his many concepts
as envisioned
>by the world's many different cultures.
>
>So chill out, stay cool, lie back, and otherwise just enjoy life
a bit more.
>
>:-)
>
>----
>In a message dated 12/1/98 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:
>
>> Every Massachusetts
>>pupil knows that the first Thanksgiving was celebrated at
>>Plymouth in 1620. Right? Well, not so fast. Virginians say
>>that it was at Berkely Plantation, Virginia, in 1619.
Actually,
>>both are wrong. The first Thanksgiving was at Palo Duro
Canyon,
>>near present-day Amarillo, where the Francisco Vasquez de
>>Coronado expedition celebrated a daybreak Mass with friendly
Teya
>>Indians in 1541. So There.
>

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