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From: "Cheryll Obendorf" <>
Subject: [BLACK-L] JOHN BLACK Family of IN (reply to Sharon)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:47:14 -0500


Here are a few ideas for you:

1. The names BLACK, DEAL and VESTAL are family names associated with an
area previously called "Haney's Corner" located in southern RIPLEY county,
Indiana. This place is now called "Vestal's Corner" and there are probably
three families who live in the area. If you look at a map, you'll see the
area is at the southern end of Ripley county which adjoins Jefferson county.
You may want to check into information in Ripley county.

2. My great-grandfather's name was Hugh Franklin Black (b. 1826). His
parents were Alexander Black (b. 1797 d. 1843) and Martha Crown.
Alexander's father was John Black. To my knowlege, my ancestor John Black
(b. 1750 VA) never lived in Indiana but remained in Bourbon county, Kentucky
until he died in 1830. The wife of my John Black was Emillia "Milly"
Norton.

3. My great-grandfather's sister, Ann E. Black, married Abram Deal on March
10, 1898 in Ripley County, Indiana. Ann was 65 at the time of her marriage
to Mr. Deal. This would probably indicate that he had been married
previously?...

4. Some research I have seen indicates that the John Black who married
Susan Deal was the son of Alexander Black. I have never seen any proof of
this and Alexander's will does not mention a son named John. The will does
mention his children: Hugh, Margaret, Ann, Amelia,

>From: Sharon Black <>
>To:
>Subject: [BLACK-L] JOHN BLACK Family of Indiana
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:04:24 -0700
>
>Posted on: BLACK Queries
>Reply Here:
>http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/l/BLACK/queries/10256
>
>Surname: Vestal, Kelso, Smith, Talkington, Beebe, Amisly
>-------------------------
>
>Am looking for any information on the John Black Family of Indiana. I was
>told that my gggrandfather John Black was from Edinburg,Scotland, (but
>it could be Ireland), and he and 3 other brothers stowed away on a cattle
>boat, were discovered at sea, made to work for their passage to America,
>and once they arrived, each went their seperate wasy.
>I know that he lived in Indiana, and was also told that his wife was half
>native American. They had several children, and the list that I was given
>was Minerva b. abt. 1839, (they called her Fannie) and she was suppose
>to have married a Kelso and lived in Indianapolis, lived to be 100 years
>old), Martha, b. abt. 1841, Rachel, b. abt. 1845, Henry Clay, b.abt. 1848,
>David Harrison, b. June 17, 1848-1850, was my ggrandfather, married
>Margaret
>(Maggie) Talkington in 1877 in Decatur, Indiana, was a horse trainer and
>trader, moved to Missouri in 1899, and was suppose to have been in the
>Civil war, some say Calevery others say he was a young boy and was a
>drummer
>boy, but he died in "Old Soldiers Home in or near Terra Haute, Indiana
>in 1931), Caroline, abt. 1853, Hiram b. abt. 1856, (had 2 known children,
>Fred and Lizza), Nancy, abt. 1858,(married a Smith and live in Broadripple,
>Indiana) and Jane, abt. 1869, (suppose to have married a Bary Beebe.
>I found a marriage application in Jefferson County, Indiana in 1838, for
>a John Black to Susan Deal, and Susan Vestal had married a John Deal in
>Jeffeston County, Indiana in 1835. (Perhaps John Deal had passed away).
>I have not been able to find any other information on this family, except
>for my ggrandfather, in after he moved to Missouri. David was suppose to
>be a very devout Catholic, a drinker, a gambler, and would fight at the
>drop of a hat, then help the other man off the field and buy him a drink.I
>know the children of David Harrison and Margaret Talkington were my
>grandfather,
>Robert Franklin Black (Frank) born in 1877, Bartholomew Co., Indiana, and
>other children were Henry Edmund, Sue, Minnie, David Eugene, Rusha, Hiram
>Elsworth, Benjamin, Samuel Scott, and James Drew. The latter 2 boys died
>at an early age, but all the other children moved to Missouri with their
>parents.
>Robert Franklin, (Frank) was also a great horseman, and he helped clear
>the timber in Southeast Missouri and Arkansas, but settled in Butler
>County,
>Missouri. He had married a Sidney Amisly (not sure of last name spelling)
>and they had one daughter Margaret (Dolly). We are not sure if he married
>Sidney in Indiana, Illinois or Missouri. Cannot find any records. He later
>married Edith Wilson Sparkman of Butler County, and we have the rest of
>the information from there.
>WE CANNOT FIND ANY INFORMATION ON JOHN BLACK, NOR CAN WE FIND ANYTHING
>PRIOR TO MISSOURI EXCEPT MARRIAGE DATA of John in Jefferson Co., and David
>in Decatur Co., Indiana.
>CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME? I and 3 other cousins have searched this for
>years, and perhaps we are looking in the wrong places, but we just can't
>find anything.
>Thank you so much in advance.
>Sharon Black
>

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