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From: "Vladimir Bohinc" <>
Subject: Re: [A-H-MILITARY] Prisoners of War WWI
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:12:09 +0100
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Dear Dave,
The only records, which I am positive about ( I called the archive today0,
that has restricted access, is the Militaermatriken. This covers fallen
soldiers 1914-1918.
However, I find this a bit odd, since I was researching these materials just
a couple of months ago with no problem.
If you say "since 1904", this is all younger than 100 years, so if it is
personal data, it will probably be restricted.
To tell you the truth, there is an Archive in Vienna, one in Prague, one in
Trnava, and asking them on the same matter, you get contradictory answers.
To my great surprise, one archive does not know what the other has. If I
would have time, I would investigate the whole situation, but I am so busy,
that I can work only on a concrete case at a time and there I can see what
the situation is.
In a situation like this, I would simply advice to ask the archive a
concrete question ( regarding concrete person with data ) and they would
tell, whether one can have acces or not and whether they have any materials
or not.
I will slowly collect this type of info and let Karen know.
If you visit the archive, you need more than one day, since they need one or
two days to prepare the materials.
They have very strict regulations there. You are, for example not even
allowed to carry a pen. You can only write your notes with a pencil or with
a laptop.
There are also different sorts of restrictions. For example, there are
certain materials, where you can ask for info, but are not allowed to search
yourself, so you have to order the search.
I can tell you so much for now.
With best regards,
Vladimir


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Dreyer" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:26 PM
Subject: [A-H-MILITARY] Prisoners of War WWI


> Vladimar;
> In view of your comments and all the discussion lately of restrictions on
> FHL microfilm of Kriegsarchiv records less than 100 years old, can we
assume
> that access to records generated since 1904 is not a problem when one
visits
> the archives in Wien?
> Dave Dreyer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vladimir Bohinc" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [0.7] [A-H-MILITARY] Prisoners of War WWI
>
>
> > Dear Karen,
> > I was researching the records of WW1 POWs recently. There are very many
of
> > them, however, I doubt, the archive will do this search.
> > The records physically are in a form of paper stripes, sometimes very
> thin,
> > which makes the search very time consuming.
> > The size of the strip is one inch by ten inches. Strips are being stored
> in
> > boxes, which contain about 1600 or more of them. The are sorted
> > approximately phonetically. What I noticed immediately, was, that these
> > stripes have almost never been searched, since some of them were still
> bound
> > in smaller packages, and all were very dirty from black war and who
knows
> > what dust. It was evident, that not very many hands have touched this.
> > Such a stripe usually has a name, year and place of birth, unit and when
> and
> > where captured. Sometimes also into which camp transposrted. Sometimes
> much
> > less information.
> > With best regards,
> > Vladimir
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [0.7] [A-H-MILITARY] Prisoners of War WWI
> >
> >
> > > If the Vienna War Archive has a record of his service it may include a
> > note
> > > that he was a POW and when that occurred.
> > >
> > > You have to write to Vienna to get any information about WW I
soldiers.
> > >
> > > Take some time to compose a very careful letter to the War Archive.
> > >
> > > You must state your relationship to the person you want researched to
> meet
> > > the requirement of privacy laws that restrict access to records dated
> > later than
> > > 1905.
> > >
> > > You must say that you will use the material only for genealogical
> > purposes.
> > >
> > > IF they answer a query about a given soldier they tend to answer only
> ONE.
> > >
> > > Make your letter simple and direct -- like a list of facts and another
> > list
> > > of questions. Surname, name; DOB; Place of birth; if you know the
> > regiment
> > > recruited in his area mention it; Mention Russian POW; give
> approximate
> > date
> > > if known. State what you want to know (what regiment, when taken
POW,
> > > during what battle (Brusilov offensive?),any other info?
> > >
> > > They may only have a 3X5 card with his name, birth info, regiment and
> the
> > > fact that he was taken prisoner on a given day -- nothing else. If
he
> > was an
> > > NCO who served for a while before the war started they may have more
> > > information. If he was an officer they will have his
> > Qualifikationsliste -- complete
> > > record.
> > >
> > > Find the Staatsarchiv website by searchin with: Staatsarchiv Wien.
> On
> > > the home page click on English. From there navigate to the war
archive
> > pages
> > > and study them. Then use the contact link to Email them your query.
> > >
> > > Or ask one of the list members who is able to do research at the War
> > Archive
> > > how you can provide him/her with the information they need to get
> > permission
> > > to view privacy-restricted materials on your behalf.
> > >
> > > Other WW I info may be in the place where he was born -- like on the
WW
> I
> > > monument there or even in a village chronicle with photos showing the
> men
> > of the
> > > village in groups of inductees. Some ot that will be in Heimat books
> if
> > the
> > > village was in one of the German areas of the CR, Poland, Banat,
> Slovakia,
> > etc.
> > >
> > > There may also be conscriptiion rolls from WW I in county or regional
> > > archives that will tell his induction date. For example there are
old
> > > Standestabellen available in Vienna that are conscription rolls for
men
> > living in that
> > > city's area.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
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