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From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Moore?
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:56:54 -0700
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Hi Gen

What I have is that James William Moore was born circa 1849 in IL. Any
later census records that I have found for him, this is consistent. His
wife's name was Eliza Jane Smith and she was born in Laclede Co., Missouri
circa 1852. I found them in 1870 and 1880 - still in Laclede County, where
they were married. A 1910 census, found James William Moore remarried to a
Lucy McDonald and living in Randolph Co., Arkansas - which is where my
father was born. In the 1920 and 1930 Randolph County censuses, Lucy is a
widow and judging by the children with her - James Moore must have died
shortly after the 1910 census.

Lucy McDonald Moore died shortly after the 1930 census and probably in
Randolph Co., Arkansas.

So, this MIA 1900 census - is just so important. My grandfather; Arthur
Samuel Moore was born circa 1886. He died when my father was seven years of
age, circa 1924. Have no idea where, when or how. Have never found his
final resting place - which is kind of sad.

My FTM is in Hawai'i - but, this much I know of their children:

Laura Belle - born circa 1871
Etta and Netta - twins, born circa 1879
George McAlister - born circa 1880
Ada - born in 1885
Arthur Samuel - born in 1886
John Herman - born 1889

So, per Ada's birth record online - Ada was the 11th child born to Eliza in
1885. In that 1880 census, there are many years difference between Laura
Belle and the twin girls...........so, Eliza must have lost quite a few
children in the decade between 1870 and 1880?

But, if I could ever find them in 1900 - it could tell me so
much..........like were there other children after John Herman Moore?

Obituary, Pocahontas Star Herald, 24 February, 1938, data provided by Irene
Broadway Roberts of Memphis, Tennessee:
"John Herman Moore, age 49, a well-known farmer in Randolph County, died
Friday, February 18, 1938 at 1:30 p.m. at his home in Shannon, Arkansas,
following a two week illness of influenza that developed into labor
pneumonia. He was well-known for his kindness and quiet generosity among his
neighbors, friends and relatives. Mr. Moore was born in Ristine, New Madrid
Co., Missouri, July 3, 1889. He moved to Pocahontas, Arkansas as a young
man, where he met and married the former Miss Birdie May Broadway, September
12, 1908. He was the son of James William Moore and Liza Jane Smith Moore.
He is survived by his wife; one daughter, Mrs. Gladys Lovanda Bottoms of
O'Kean, Arkansas; two sons, John Moore, Jr. at home and Ernest Herman Moore
of Hot Springs, Arkansas; one granddaughter, Betty Jean Moore; one brother,
George McAlister Moore; and one sister, Mrs. Laura Bell (note, she married a
Bell), both of Lilbourne, Missouri. Funeral services were conducted at the
First Baptist Church in Pocahontas, Arkansas, Sunday, February 20, at 2:00
o'clock by the Rev. W. E. Chadwick. Internment was in the Masonic Cemetery,
under the direction of McNabb Undertaking Co."

Note to John Herman Moore:

WWI Draft Registration
MOORE, John, born 3 Jul 1888, age 29, caucasian, residence, Shannon, born
Thayer, MO, occupation, farming, employer, self, nearest relative, married
with wife and 2 children, no exemptions, (Jun 5,1917)

Something of note here? John Herman's obituary says that he was born in
Ristine, New Madrid Co., Missouri - but, his WWI draft registrations says
that he was born in Thayer, Missouri? Where is Thayer?

Sooooooooo, when I say that surname enumerated as MOOER? Thought it worth a
shot to try that for 1900?

Thanks a bunch, Gen.


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Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Moore?



Bernie what state was he born in, and what years of b. for him & his wife?
thanks,
gen

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Bernie Moore-Knowles <> wrote:

> From: Bernie Moore-Knowles <>
> Subject: [ARIZARD] Moore?
> To:
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:59 AM
> Hey guys?
>
> After Mike Reeves posted in response to Gen's question - I
> went to the Mississippi site that Mike had suggested for
> her. Really interesting and thanks to Mike.
>
> Just goes to show you?
>
> I know that some of you may know that I have never been
> able to find my grandfather and his family in the 1900
> census. The Moore family, right?
>
> Well.............I noticed something on the census record
> on that site. A Moore family had been enumerated as
> MOOER!
>
> I have tried every spelling in the world to find my James
> William Moore in 1900 and have come up empty. The
> census record in 1900 is very important because no one knows
> just how many children that James Moore and Eliza Jane Smith
> had - nor when or where that Eliza died.
>
> On the Missouri online records, I found that there was a
> daughter born to them in 1886, I think it was and this
> record provided that at the time of this infant daughter's
> birth - Eliza had given birth to ten children prior.
>
> That was news and the daughter was news, too.
>
> So, if anyone has absolutely nothing else to do?
> Right.............
>
> Can you see if there are any MOOER families in the 1900
> census? I am guessing that they would be found in
> Missouri, Arkansas or Oklahoma or Indian Territories.
> Eliza was either Black, Indian or a combination of the two
> races. Most probably enumerated as White,
> though. James Moore was White, I know that. I
> have a circa 1885 picture of them - so, I know she was still
> living in 1885 and 1886.
>
> She was a beauty and he looked grumpy.
>
> Never know what this List can do. If Mike Reeves had
> not posted that link, I would have never gone to the site
> and would never have thought of that spelling of the Moore
> surname.
> Bernie Moore-Knowles
> Carlsbad, California
>
> "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood
> for you to
> question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
>
>
>
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