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From: Annita Fulton <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area?
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:59:01 -0500
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Hi Rick,

I've never emailed you before, but if I remember right, you're in Tulsa - I'm originally from Oxford, Izard County, but moved from there when I was a year old and grewup in
Cushing, Oklahoma, so Tulsa seems really close to home. My brother still lives in Cushing, but I'm now in Nebraska. Just thought I'd introduce myself and say hello
to another Ark/Okla researcher. I copied and pasted one of the Archive pages from the www.gov.com sites. My husband is a retired veteran and I'm retired from the
Federal government, so I use that site quite a bit and just happened onto the archive site. There was a Vietnam Wall Memorial Site and you could lookup names of those
you knew who had died. I had always wanted to lookup the names of a couple of my classmates and there they were. Also, I love to research where my Dad served in
WWII. I think you'll enjoy this site and find it easy to locate items and it's free. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. If I can help, just let me know.

Annita


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> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:45:42 -0500> From: > To: > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area?> > Hi Annita,> > I have been a member of www.military.com for several years and have never> seen anything on there that provides free military records. There are links> to other websites that charge you for research as well as links to the> National Archives but nothing free or beneficial to most common researchers.> Can you give me a specific page link so I can see what I'm missing?> > Rick Lawrence - Tulsa> > -------Original Message------- > > From: Annita Fulton > Date: 6/17/2008 11:08:52 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area? > > Military records and archives of all wars have been made available at no> cost on the www.military.com website. Old documents and even photos are> there too. Annita (Taylor) Fulton > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:32:40 -0700> From: > To:> > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area?>> > Pat,> Have you tried looking for him on www.Footnote.com? What I like> about this> site is that you can see the original records and print them out> I have> been able to get a lot of records that I would have had to send in> $$ for if> I had sent off to the National Archives for. I got all 55 pages> of my> gggg-grandfather's RW pension application, and all it cost me was> some paper> and ink. I think it would have cost me over $75 from NARA. There> are a lot> of CW records too, although not all states are complete yet.> Footnote is a> subscription site but it only cost me $49.00 a year and it> has more than> paid for its self.> > Ellen Tolleson Reesh> > On Mon, Jun 16,> 2008 at 4:33 PM, candyandrick <> wrote:> > > Hi'ya Pat!>> >> > No, the cemetery will have no info on the people buried in their> cemeteries> > (I tried t! > Hat route on several occasions and heard the same "no" every> > time)> >> >>> > Your quest is a difficult one and could prove to be costly when you start>> > ordering records from the gov't. I don't remember how much it cost now> >> (other than it is ridiculously high) to get Civil War archival records from>> > there National Archives but it is prohibitive to me.> >> > If the Lewis> Green that is in Illinois is buried at Oaklawn Cemetery, then> > he was a> Confederate and more likely than not he died of smallpox, bloody> > flux or> dysentery. That cemetery is the hallowed burial ground to> > Confederate POW> s who were housed at Camp Douglas, the North's version of> > Andersonville.> But if he's buried someplace else, then who knows what the> > circumstances> may have been.> >> > As for the burial in Georgia, well...that could be> anyone's guess.> >> > But, if he was over 60, the chances of him having been> in the Union army> > are> > slim unless he had been a career army man. Now,> you! > Will find a few, but> > dang few. Usually the older fellas in the ser > Vice were in the Confederacy> > doing "Home Guard" types of things or even> working as prison guards.> >> > Yes...follow the instructions at the> websites you go to...and good luck!> >> > Rick Lawrence - Tulsa> >> >> -------Original Message-------> >> > From: Pat Foster> > Date: 6/15/2008> 10:27:52 PM> > To: > > Subject: [ARIZARD] Military> burials in the area?> >> > Rick, thank you.> > The reason I asked is this> Lewis Green we keep hunting.> > He disappeared after the 1860 census. This> would make his age into the 60s.> > I thought maybe if he died a natural> death he might be buried locally in a> > Military area.> > And, he possibly> was in the Civil War?? I found 2 Lewis Greens at that site> > That shows all> the national cemetery burials. Both died in 1864, one buried> > In Illinois,> the other in GA. If he was in MO, when and if he joined or was> > Forced to> sign up, he could have died in a confederate or Union prison. So,> > I guess> the next thing to do is if! > ND out the info about these two?> > I think I might have found another great> grandfather from Illinois who was> > Killed and placed in a mass grave in> Indiana. Then, at some point he was> > Re-buried in an area for Union> soldiers and not mixed with Confederates as> > Well.> > So, I will> investigate these individuals. Best way to do that is to follow> >> Instructions at that website? If I call the cemetery, do they know ANY> >> Information there?> >> > Pat> > In Oklahoma> >> >> >> > -----Original> Message-----> > From: > [mailto:]> > On> > Behalf Of candyandrick> >> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:55 PM> > To: > > Subject:> Re: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area?> >> > Pat,> >> > There are> National Cemeteries at Ft. Gibson, OK, and Ft. Sill, OK. On the> >> Oklahoma/Arkansas border there is one in Fayetteville, AR and Ft. Smith,> >> AR.> >> >> > Okay, an 1860 era death....there really wasn't a national cem! > etery in that> > Time frame. The first TRUE US National Cemetery as be > st as I can remember> > Was at Arlington. It was built on the site of Robert> E. Lee's> > Home/plantation. That spot was chosen, so the story goes, so> that every> > Morning when Lee looked out of his house, he would see the> markers of all> > Those Civil War KIA's who were buried there. That was> after the war ended> > In 1865.> >> > There is the possibility that a> veteran who lived close to a military> > Installation could have been buried> at that post/fort. The only thing> > Needed was permission of the post/fort> commander at the time. The cemetery> > At Ft. Gibson was originally the fort> s cemetery I do believe, the same> > with> >> > Ft. Sill. Many Indians, to> include Geronimo, are buried in the Ft. Sill> > Cemetery but again, if I> remember correctly, in a separate area. I've been> > To the grave site but> cannot rememebr who far it was from the US veterans> > Burial area. Most> veterans though who died in the post-Civil War era were> > Buried in private> or community cemeteri! > es and there is no official US> > record> >> > Of their burial locations.>> >> > A side note for you...all veterans who served honorably in the> American> > Military, rate a free headstone, even Johnny Reb Confederates. I> obtained> > One a few years ago for my great, great grandfather, William> Martin> > Lawrence> >> > And placed it at his gravesite. So, if you have a> relative who served> > Honorably who needs a headstone, you can get it!> Contact your "favorite" or> > Local funeral home. They have the paperwork> there to send in for you (they> > Have to send it in) along with proof of> honorable service and in about 3> > Months they will get the headstone in> for you. All that is free. BUT...if> > You want it placed, you will have to> pay to have that done. The cost is> > Usually anywhere from about $50.00 to> $150.00 for it to be set in concrete> > Depending on the cemetery. Some> cemeteries require granite bases which are> > Considerably more expensive> but most will accept the con! > crete setting. And> > If it's a country cemetery, you can do it yourse > lf if you wish. Bear in> > Mind though, these headstones are heavy!> >> >> Rick Lawrence - Tulsa> >> >> > -------Original Message-------> >> > From:> Pat Foster> > Date: 6/13/2008 9:51:19 PM> > To: > >> Subject: [ARIZARD] Military burials in the area?> >> > Anyone: If a local> military veteran dies--where is the nearest National> > Cemetery they might> be buried in? What if they died 1860+?> > Thanks, Pat, in Oklahoma> >> >> >>> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please> send an email to> > with the word 'unsubscribe'> without the> > quotes> > In the subject and the body of the message> >> >> >> --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date: 6/12/2008> >> 4:58 PM> >> > .> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe> from the list, please send an email to> > with> the word 'unsubsc! > ribe' without the> > quotes> > in the subject and the body of the message>> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list,> please send an email to> > with the word > unsubscribe' without the> > quotes> > in the subject and the body of the> message> >> >> > --> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked> by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date:> 6/14/2008> > 6:02 PM> >> > .> >> > -------------------------------> > To> unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send> an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know now? 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