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From: Don Ott <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Beale - Betty Mc
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:13:34 -0500
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Well I always thought Susannah "Susan" that married Nathan
Jedediah Langston was a Latham.
Don
At 01:35 AM 11-07-07, you wrote:
>Betty Mc?
>
>You get the award, sweetie for asking the best question for the year! What
>a fantastic idea - who were her Beale parents?
>
>I notice in what I have that Susan (or Susannah?) Beale was born in
>Tennessee. Your Ann Beale Guthrie is probably a sibling and I have that she
>may have had a Nancy that was a sister. Just some notes that I have. The
>interesting thing to me is that if she was a Beale - she didn't marry
>Langston until she was 35 years old?
>
>Not a rule of thumb here, but most women married before the age of 35 -
>which brings to question whether she might have been the WIDOW Beale? Just
>another thought, mind you.
>
>Now, in looking through some of the Beale information that I have and it
>sure isn't much - I find this:
>
>Thomas J. Beale married to an Elsie Coonce on October 07, 1888.
>
>Now, Elsie Coonce is connected to my aunt's Orvis family. The Orvis' had an
>IL > Ripley Co., Missouri > Lawrence Co., AR migration route. A few
>generations later than our Beales that we are looking at, but something to
>look at none the less?
>
>Closer to home is this marriage:
>
>Dr. Richard Hughes Beale (1851- 1908) married Mary Dona Nicks in Izard
>County. I have nothing further on Dr. Beale - but, the Nicks family were
>from Hickman Co., Tennessee and appear to have migrated to Izard County
>shortly after the Civil War.
>
>And then this gentleman:
>
>Marcellus "Ty" Beale married Eliza/Edna May Adams (1894-1960). Her Adams
>family had Marion County roots and they all ended up in La Garto, Live Oak
>Co., Texas.
>
>You mentioned that Ann Beale Guthrie ended up in Texas? What county?
>
>And this:
>
>Dicey Jane Beale married William Riley Cotter and it appears that this
>couple had their first child in 1853, in Fulton County.
>
>So, not much to go on, but I wonder if anyone has considered that Susan
>Beale may not have been a Beale by birth but the widow Beale?
>
>Something that I just found in my notes and this is a real old post of T. J.
>Harper's - remember her? She is referencing the children in the 1850 census
>and just throwing out some ideas - but, it evidently had crossed her mind
>that Susan was a widow when she married Langston:
>
>From: TJH <>
>Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999
>If you ever done any work with what Kathyrn Langston and I call THE DREADED
>BILLINGSLY you'll quickly understand that it is a mess. I have never been
>able to determine just who were the parents of the Hightower children in the
>Nathan Langston Household of 1850. They are either: orphaned children of a
>daughter as yet un-named. or orphaned children of Chrissy Langston (the
>sister of Nathan and the other Langston's who I lost track of in 1804 in
>Livingston Co. Ky or and this is a possiblity - The children of Susannah's
>(Nathan's second wife ) from her first marriage..... The Layton attributed
>to Susannah has never been verified. tjh........ I too would give the
>person who answers this puzzle a place on the Genealogy Hall of Fame tjh
>
>You got to love Kathryn Langston and T. J. Harper, don't you? Tremendous
>and thorough researchers, I think. I still keep in touch with Kathryn and
>know that she is trying her best to find a male for the Langston DNA project
>that descends from those children that are thought to be Hightowers - to
>confirm if they are - or if they are indeed Langston children. The jury is
>still out for some Langston researchers, I know.
>
>And lastly, I mentioned that I thought there was a Bible record somewhere on
>the Langstons? Here is what I found in my notes and it is referencing
>Absolom Langston (b1839 and son of Nathan, Sr.):
>
>Birth record: Kathryn Langston writes on 06 July 2000:
>Nathan's birth was 26 Oct 1790, source is handwritten paper found in son,
>Absolom's bible / or trunk, in Absolom's handwritting. The death date was
>January 16, 1870, the copy of the note says January, but when Brian typed it
>in he put February in the newsletter.
>
>So, I think we might need to look in Hickman Co., Tennessee for a start on
>researching the Beales, Betty Mc. Or at least it is a start. That is a
>Tennessee county that I have never worked in. But, I seriously wonder if
>Susannah was a Beale by marriage - but, if she was? She was born in 1806 in
>Tennessee and married Nathan circa 1841 and probably in Izard County.
>
>Was there a Beale household recorded in the 1840 Izard County census at all?
>
>Bernie Moore-Knowles
>Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
>
>"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
>question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Betty G. McCollum" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Nathan J. Langston - Paula
>
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> >
> > Bernie:
> > Just now gettinig around to read some of my older messages. Has no
> > one ever tried to find parents of Susanah (Susan) Beal Langston?
> > Betty Mc
> >
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