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From: Don Ott <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] William T. "Cherokee Bill" Smith
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:14:28 -0600
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Bernie,
By the way if you don't get over your basketball career
soon, we are going to lose interest in this search. I saw yesterday
where some person was claiming that President Thomas Jefferson
actually married the black slave that bore his child. That could be
exciting for a search. Particularly for those Izard County folk that
claim they are related to the President.
Don


At 03:24 PM 16-12-05, you wrote:
>Oh gosh guys!
>
>I have been working a basketball tournament in Hilo for the last few days
>and have two more days to go - so, I have not been getting home until late.
>I feel so helpless, not being able help in this search!
>
>I did read your post, Don about the military records. If he was a house
>painter during his lifetime, then he probably needed that pension as a
>retiree. I am not sure where to go to find that information, though.
>
>The first night, late - I did try, like yourself - to find him on the social
>security index and had not any luck at all. Surely, he had a social
>security number? Even my grandfather had a social security number. But, I
>was not able to connect him to any of the William Smith's that they had
>listed; with the birthdate provided on the registration card that Vera
>provided.
>
>Interesting?
>
>I did go online this morning and if what I was pulling up is correct, they
>did not award Purple Hearts during WWI. Why, I have no idea? They resumed
>during WWI? Rick Lawrence would know for sure.
>
>By the way, Rick? Will you email me off List? If you get a free moment?
>
>This Meant surname is a new one for me, for sure. Last night I went on
>Genforum to see what I could find - and came up empty there. Makes me
>wonder and goodness, I hope not............if maybe Bill and Ann Smith left
>Baltimore during the Depression? I know that our country migrational make
>up changed so much during that period. I still think that the key to
>finding Bill's family will be through his military records; as you said -
>surely he received a pension?
>
>I know that Bill was still alive in 1956 - as I said - he attended the
>funeral of my grandfather's. The only other living sibling was Joe Smith
>and the story that I got from my mother was this, regarding Joe during the
>early Depression years:
>
>"Joe was always on the run from the law. As a child in Arkansas, I can
>remember him coming to our (my mother and her two sisters; Audie and Hazel)
>bedroom window late at night after my parents were in bed. He'd sneak up,
>tap on the window and slip in new shoes, a new dress, sometimes just a
>little something for us girls. Then off he'd be in the night. We never saw
>him much after I got married to Chick. Last time I saw him, was when we
>buried Daddy. I looked up from the graveside service and there he was,
>standing off in a distance - under an oak tree. Never came over and said a
>word to us. Just held his hat in his hand and kept his head bowed. He had
>on a nice suit. He looked real nice. But, he was probably still running
>from the law."
>
>So, that day Christmas Eve day in 1956 when Sherman Smith was buried at
>Rosehill, there in Tulsa................. was the last time that my family
>saw Bill Smith or his brother; Joe Smith.
>
>
>Bernie Moore-Knowles
>Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
>
>"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
>question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] William T. "Cherokee Bill" Smith
>
>
> > Don,
> > I'm sorry I didn't explain that better. The Meant I found in 1920 was
>B.C.
> > Meant in Union Bridge, Carroll County, MD. In the 1910 and 1900 census he
>was
> > found as Bruce C. Weant. I don't know that there is any relation to Anna
> > Smith, I was just pointing out how the W and M's are easily confused. By
>the way,
> > Union Bridge is only about 45 to 50 miles from Baltimore. I kept looking
>at
> > Weant and Meant this morning until I went cross eyed.
> >
> > Lou Smith
> >
> >
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