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From: Don Ott <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Ruminer
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:54 -0600
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Now wait, I thought that Mahala Woodall first married John
Paige Rogers in 1837 and had two children, Frances and John Paige Rogers.
Second Mahala Woodall married John Williams in 1845 and had
Lewis, Nancy Jane, Caroline and Margaret A. Williams.
Third Mahala Woodall married Charles Sexton 1857 and had
James Henry, Charles Shadrack, William Samuel, Henry Franklin and
Monroe Sexton.
Now Frances Rogers from Mahala's first marriage
married David Ruminer. So in the 1870 Census those are her
grandchildren aren't they? ( Mary and John D.) Haven't figured out
the 1 year old.

Don




At 12:01 PM 28-11-05, you wrote:
><<If Mahala's brother Shadrach Woodall married a Rumier then wouldn't his
>children have the Woodall name and not Rumier?>>
>
>Good morning, Lena
>
>I think that I was attempting that post from memory and did a poor job of
>it, didn't I?
>
>Shadrach Woodall's children did carry his surname............are you
>referring to the Ruminer children in Mahala Woodall Sexton's 1870 census?
>
>Those children are David Ruminer's. David was a brother to Mary Ann Ruminer
>Woodall. I believe that David Ruminer died shortly after the close of the
>War. His wife; Frances unknown? I don't know whether she too was deceased
>by 1870 or if she had remarried and was living elsewhere - but, their
>children are living in Mahala's home in 1870.
>
>Extended family? Folks took care of orphaned children then, didn't they?
>
>1860 Izard Co., Arkansas census, Irons Point Township:
>RUMINER, David 26 TN
>#1118/1118 Frances 20 MO
> Mary E. 2 AR
> John D. 1 AR
> Rachael 7 AR
>
>1870 Izard Co., Arkansas census, Union Township :
>SECTSON, Mahala 47 fmr
>#22/22 Caroline dau 20
> Margaret dau 18 TX
> James H son 11 AR
> Charles S. son 10 AR
> William S. son 7 AR
> Henry P. son 6 AR
> Munrow B. son 2 AR
>RUMINER, M. f 12 AR
> John D. m 10 AR
> Margaret f 1 AR
>
>Lena honey? Did I even answer your question? LOL Tell me, if I didn't and
>I'll have another cup of coffee and try again.
>
>Bernie Moore-Knowles
>Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
>
>"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
>question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "lena yager" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Ruminer - Don
>
>
> > Bernie
> > If Mahala's brother Shadrach Woodall married a Rumier then wouldn't his
>children have the Woodall name and not Rumier?
> > Lena
> >
> > Bernie Moore-Knowles <> wrote:
> > Good morning, Don
> >
> > This is what I have for the 1870 Mahala Sexton census. Looks like I
> > transcribed it myself when I had access to Heritage, probably.
> >
> > 10 August 1870 Izard Co., Arkansas census, Union Township, Pineville Post
> > Office:
> > SECTSON, Mahala 47 F W farmer 150/300 AL
> > #22/22 Caroline 20 F W AR
> > Margret F W 18 TX
> > James H. 11M W at home AR
> > Charles S. 10 M W AR
> > William S. 7 M W AR
> > Henry P. 6 M W AR
> > Munrow B. 2 M W AR
> > RUMINER, M. 12 F W AR
> > John D. 10 M W AR
> > Margaret 1 F W AR
> >
> > The Woodalls and the Ruminers intermarried; I know. Mahala's brother;
> > Shadrack Woodall (b1832) was married to Mary Ann Ruminer (b1838). Shadrack
> > died shortly after the Civil War; I believe. Probably from illness or
> > injury - like so many others?
> >
> > The children listed in the 1870 census above were the issue of Mahala's
> > other brother; David Ruminer (b1834) and a Frances unkown (b1840 MO).
>David
> > was deceased shortly after the War, also.
> >
> > 1860 Izard Co., Arkansas census, Irons Point Township:
> > RUMINER, David 26 TN
> > #1118/1118 Frances 20 MO
> > Mary E. 2 AR
> > John D. 1 AR
> > Rachael 7 AR
> >
> > Note: I am unsure who the little Rachel Ruminer is from the 1860 David
> > Ruminer census. A daughter from a previous marriage? I at first thought
> > that she was a younger sibling - but, judging from these census records?
> > What do you all think?
> >
> > Note: An Index to 1840, Fifth United States Census of St. Francis Co.,
> > Arkansas, page 82, Ruminer, John
> >
> > 1850 Independence Co., Arkansas census, Wallace Township:
> > RUMANER, John 41 M farmer KY
> > #480/480 Elizabeth 30 F KY
> > Joseph 14 M TN
> > Mary A. 12 F TN
> > Nancy E. 9 F KY
> > Lewis 3 M AR
> > William 23 M laborer KY
> >
> > 15 June 1860 Independence Co., Arkansas census, Union Township, Black Oak
> > Post Office:
> > RUMINER, John 49 M farmer 400/200 TN
> > #360/349 Elizabeth 41 F KY
> > Lewis 13 M AR
> >
> > Arkansas Land Records
> > JOHN RUMINER BATESVILLE 17811 1860/09/01 05 14.0 N 8.0 W 4 41.4200
> >
> > John Ruminer and Elizabeth Harris were the parents of David, Shadrack,
>Mary
> > Ann and others. If you need additional information on these Ruminers, let
> > me know. My Langstons intermarried with them - so, I started exploring the
> > surname.
> >
> > But, who is Rachel, aged seven in the 1870 census............anyone know?
> >
> > Bernie Moore-Knowles
> > Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
> >
> > "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
> > question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Ott"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:35 AM
> > Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Charles and Mahala Sexton
> >
> >
> > > In the 1870 Census, Charles Sexton is missing. The way the census in
> > > made for Arkansas, Izard, Union, is that household # 22 is headed by
> > > Henry J. Redding 14, I believe that probably was not correct, just
> > > think the census taker got the number on the wrong line. Mahala
> > > Sectson 47 AL, on the second line, now has collected up Caroline 20
> > > AR and Margaret 18 TX from her previous marriage to John Williams but
> > > they are listed as Sectson's here. Then James H. 11 AR, Charles S.
> > > 10 AR, William S. 7 AR, Henry F. 6 AR, Monroe B. 2 AR.
> > > Additionally in the household is Ruminer M. 12 AR (f), John D. 10
> > > AR, and Margaret 1 AR. Don't know how these folks fit in the family?
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
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