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From: "Roger Harvell" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] 1870 Bernie *Samuel Smith*
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:26:17 -0600
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Don't overlook Martha in the 1870 either. I expect Samuel was married
before (there is a pretty good age difference between he and Malinda) and
that both Lewis and Martha are half-sibs of Thomas. I wouldn't be surprised
if there were others.
Mercer County is right on the Iowa line so the pattern is heading south.
And yes, there was a lot of mining going on in Marion County in those days.
I have spent a little time looking for Sam in 1860, but no luck so far.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] 1870 Bernie *Samuel Smith*


> Roger?
>
> This is real puzzling to me. Only thing that I can think of is that Lewis
> in the 1880 census is a step-son and not a birth son to Malinda Smith?
What
> about you? And these Missouri counties are so foreign to me - I don't
have
> a clue at this point why someone from Mercer would migrate (boundary
> change?) to Saline Co. and then on to Baxter Co., Arkansas.
>
> Will have to do some more research on this when time permits.
>
> I know that there has to be a zillion Thomas J. Smiths born in the
nineteen
> century - but, what I found real interesting was the Lewis Smith that was
> included in the 1880 household. As I mentioned, my Thomas Smith named one
> of his sons Lewis. That really caught my eye and when Howard mentioned
this
> census record and included the name of Lewis Smith in the text - well, you
> can imagine?
>
> It could be that Samuel Smith in the 1870 census was a sibling to some of
> the area Smiths from Marion and Baxter Cos?
>
> I found my Thomas Smith in the 1900 Barren Creek, Baxter Co. census. This
> record said that he was born in MO, father in TN and mother in AR - if my
> memory serves me right? I note that the Malinda Smith's 1880 record has
her
> husband as being born in GA and Samuel in 1870 says the same.
>
> Now, when I asked Mother many, many years ago where her family was from,
her
> reply was "Georgia." Now, whether she meant the Sinors or the Smiths?
> Could be that I have just been looking in the wrrong area.
>
> I also noted that in the 1880 census with Malinda Smith that two of her
sons
> were enumerated as working in the coal mines? Maybe that is why Thomas
> ended up in Marion Co.? Wasn't there mining in the Lead area of that
> county?
>
> Anyone?
> Bernie Moore-Knowles
> Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
>
> "Swaying palms in paradise........"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:09 AM
> Subject: [ARIZARD-L] 1870 Bernie *Samuel Smith*
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Vera Reeves" <>
> > > Date: 2005/02/13 Sun PM 11:31:21 EST
> > > To:
> > > Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Help? - Roger and Beth
> > >
> > > Bernie,
> > >
> > > Saline County MO is north of where 65 crosses I-70 which is east of
> Kansas
> > > City. Looks like Marshall might be the county seat.
> > > Saline County, AR is sort of between Hot Springs and Little Rock but I
> think
> > > you will find it is in Garland County.
> > >
> > > taken from the index KEEP an eye on that mother being 11 years when
her
> son
> > > Lewis was born. film shows her 48 and Lewis 37. Looking at the ages of
> the
> > > other children makes me wonder what his age really is.
> > >
> > > 1880 family # 200
> > > Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1832> Tennessee Self
> > > Lewis SMITH Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1843> Missouri Son
> > > Mary F. SMITH Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1864> Missouri
> Daughter
> > > Thomas J. SMITH Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1866> Missouri
> Son
> > > Preston SMITH Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1867> Missouri
Son
> > > Oliver SMITH Malinda SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1871> Missouri Son
> > > the film also shows these
> > > James L. SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1872> Missouri Grandson
> > > Maggie SMITH Blackwater, Saline, MO <1875> Missouri Granddaughter
> > >
> >
> > Bernie, here is the 1870 census with this family:
> > 1870 Mercer County, Ravanna Township, Missouri
> > 167 166 Smith Samuel 40 MW Farmer GA
> > Malinda 35 FW TN
> > Martha A 16 FW MO
> > Alexander 9 MW MO
> > Mary F 5 FW MO
> > Thomas 4 MW MO
> > Preston 2 MW MO
> >
> >
> >
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