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From: Angie Dirscherl <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Matilda Frances Bridges Stroud b. 1846 Cherokee? Betty
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:00:56 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <002a01c4dfa8$abb852a0$d39cced1@vucqpqlj>


Betty,
Hi another Betty! Nice to meet you. That was Willa Rhea! She sure is a sweet lady. I plan on making a visit to her next summer. She has alot of great things to say. Thanks for Louise's number. I will call her this weekend. I think much history for my family has been misplaced by the move my grandparent's Homer and Jessie Fleming, to Wenatchee, WA. How I dreamed of Arkansas as a child. Stories of Strawberry and Violet Hill's, Oxford and Wideman. How everyone was related to everyone and how nice and decent the folk's were. I knew my grandparents just the same. Always good eats and lot's of hugs and kisses. James Shelby (Homer) Fleming was brother to Benjamin. He married Jessie Opal White. He died in 1977 a year after my mother and Jessie in Nov. 1988. I am compiling yet more of the Fleming line but have yet to find Benjamin and Homer's Fleming Grandparent's. Their father was John W. Fleming was born in 1853 in Georgia. He married Nancy Smith Brockwell. She was the sister of Ge!
orge
Brockwell of Brockwell,AR. Thank's again to Harold Blevin's who helped me with that. Below is what he sent me. I will put you in my Fleming contact list so when I get it better documented I will send you the file. Thank's for the help and I will poke around tonight to see what I can find on Sallie Hightower.

Angie Dirscherl


Descendants of John William Fleming





Generation No. 1



1. JOHN WILLIAM1 FLEMING was born December 1853 in GA, and died 1922. He married (1) MARTHA A. CARTER 13 February 1880.

She was born 1853 in AR. He married (2) NANNIE BROCKWELL 28 September 1893. She was born January 1868 in TN.



Children of JOHN FLEMING and MARTHA CARTER are:

i. MARY2 FLEMING, b. 1879.

ii. WILLIAM FLEMING, b. January 1883.

iii. MAUD FLEMING, b. October 1884.



Children of JOHN FLEMING and NANNIE BROCKWELL are:

iv. BENJAMIN DENNIS2 FLEMING, b. 22 August 1894; d. 1977, Izard County AR (Violet Hill Cemetery); m. NELLIE MAE BLEVINS,

3 January 1917; b. 15 December 1894; d. 10 July 1980, Izard County AR (Violet Hill Cemetery).

2. v. JOHN HUBERT FLEMING, b. 5 April 1896; d. 20 May 1973, Izard County AR (Oxford Cem).

vi. OTHA G. FLEMING, b. 27 January 1898; d. 11 November 1923, Izard County AR (Spring Hill Cemetery).

vii. ELVA FLEMING, b. 1902.

viii. JAMES FLEMING, b. 1903.

ix. ALPHIS FLEMING, b. 1906.

x. REMMEL L. FLEMING, b. 28 January 1919; d. 21 August 1987, Izard County AR (Oxford Cemetery); m. SYBIL L. UNKNOWN;

b. 27 December 1921; d. 22 February 1989, Izard County AR (Oxford Cemetery).





Generation No. 2



2. JOHN HUBERT2 FLEMING (JOHN WILLIAM1) was born 5 April 1896, and died 20 May 1973 in Izard County AR (Oxford Cem).

He married AMANDA CANSADA BLEVINS 28 September 1917, daughter of WILLIAM BLEVINS and ATTIE BEAVER.

She was born 23 April 1898, and died 27 May 1982 in Izard County AR (Oxford Cem).



Children of JOHN FLEMING and AMANDA BLEVINS are:

3. i. REMMEL MARSHALL3 FLEMING, b. 21 January 1919.

4. ii. WILLA RHEA FLEMING, b. 21 May 1921.

iii. HAZEL LAVAUGHN FLEMING, b. 5 June 1923; m. JACK ROWDEN, 26 January 1948.

iv. CAROL FLEMING, b. 3 January 1926; d. 25 October 1927.





Generation No. 3



3. REMMEL MARSHALL3 FLEMING (JOHN HUBERT2, JOHN WILLIAM1) was born 21 January 1919.

He married SYBIL HARPER November 1941.



Children of REMMEL FLEMING and SYBIL HARPER are:

i. JAMES HUBERT4 FLEMING, b. 7 June 1942.

ii. RICKY FLEMING, b. 10 January 1950.

iii. RANDY FLEMING, b. 7 July 1954.

iv. PATRICK FLEMING, b. 6 December 1961.



4. WILLA RHEA3 FLEMING (JOHN HUBERT2, JOHN WILLIAM1) was born 21 May 1921. She married NOBLE ROWDEN

11 June 1942, son of JOHN ROWDEN and SARAH CARUTHERS. He was born 6 November 1921.




Angie,
Another Betty here from Izard Co.
Was the Rowden in Oxford, Willie Rae, that you spoke to? She was a
Fleming.
Someone else that might help you, with your Fleming's, is Lousie
Wiles. Her
Father's sister Nellie married Ben Fleming. Her number is 870- 368
-7141.
I am a cousin to Lousie. Our Mother's were sister and our father, first
cousins.
I remember Ben and Nellie from my childhood. I know they never had
children
but I don't know Ben's genealogy. Nellie was also a first cousin of my
father.

Also on you grandmother that was Cherokee. I also have a grandmother,
It
was passed down through the families, that she was Full Blood Cherokee
but I
have never been able to prove it. Her name was Sallie Hightower.
Neither
have I been able to place her with any of the Hightower families that
came
to Izard Co. with the Walkers, and Wren's.
She was in Izard Co with her husband, Andrew Walker, in the 1830
census.
All the research I have do, so far, says, there is not records for the
Cherokee's that came into Izard Co. from this period.
Also when the Indians were moved to Ok, The Shawnee, in 1829 and the
Cherokee on the Trail of Tears, in the 1938. If you claimed Indian
blood you
were sent to OK, therefore a lot of people of Indian Blood keep it
quite and
only the word of the families were past down.
Good luck on your search.
Betty BB

-----Original Message-----
From: Angie Dirscherl <>
To: <>
Date: Saturday, December 11, 2004 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Matilda Frances Bridges Stroud b. 1846
Cherokee?
Betty


>Betty:
> I would love it. I had spoken with Mrs. Rowden of Oxford
concerning the
Stroud's and subsequently 3 other ladies in my family whom I'd never
met.
One of them expressed to me the knowledge that they had seen the family
bible just thrown in the ditch after the death of Cora Stroud. Can you
even
imagine?!?! She talked about beautiful hand written books as well just
thrown out. I can only imagine that times then were about the present
and if
the crop's were enough to get them through the winter.
> I also spoke with a Nadine Shelton who is the daughter of John
Hubert
Fleming. She said something to me quite rememberable.
>
>"We were dirt poor and really had nothin' but as kid's we didn't know
no
better so we never missed it." She said also, " I couldn't have asked
for a
happier childhood."
>
>Thanks Betty,
>Angie Dirscherl
>
>Angie:
> I corresponded several years ago with a distant relative of mine
>whose
>Grandfather was Joseph Green Bridges. He married Hala Quintilla
>Jennings.
>They were in Izard County. The lady I corresponded with was Betty
>Bridges
>Staffel. She passed away several years ago. I remember her writing
to
>me
>one time about her Bridges being related somehow to the Albert
Gallatin
>STroud. She has a brother who lives in Oklahoma and got most all of
>Betty's
>research when she passed away. I can give you his address, if you
want
>it.
> Betty Guthrie McCollum
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Angie Dirscherl" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:06 PM
>Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Matilda Frances Bridges Stroud b. 1846 Cherokee?
>
>
>> Hi all and Frohes Weihnachten from Germany! Here is that Fleming
girl
>again trying to dig a few more roots. I am looking for:
>>
>> Name: Matilda Frances "Fannie" BRIDGES
>> Sex: F
>> Birth: 23 MAR 1846 in Mississippi
>> Death: 3 OCT 1913 in Izard County, Arkansas
>> Burial: OCT 1913 Oxford Cemetery, Izard County, Arkansas
>>
>> Marriage 1 Albert Gallatin STROUD b: 5 FEB 1819 in Warren Co. TN
>> Married: ABT. 1877 in Izard County, Arkansas
>>
>> I was told by my Great Aunt's who still live in Oxford that Fannie
>Bridges
>was a full blooded Cherokee indian. They also spoke of her daughter
(my
>Great Grandma Cora White, wife of John William White) practiced Native
>American medicine. Does anyone have anything that can confirm this?
>This one
>is driving me nut's! I have seen pictures of Cora standing a good 6
ft.
>tall
>and proud with her long black braids but my family has lacked in
>telling
>enough family stories.
>>
>> Thanks for Any Help!!! I sure need it....
>>
>> Angie Dirscherl.....Bayerischer Wald, Deutschland
>



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