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From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Shirley - Betty Mc
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:37:30 -0700
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Hi Betty Mc


Nope, don't have the Izard History Book - but, wish that I did. I am just
curious about this Mary E. Shirley's parentage. The marriage record and
census records just don't seem to add up - but, that's what I get for being
nosey, right?


Bernie Moore-Knowles
Phoenix, Arizona

"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
question my honesty." ........Will Rogers

----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty G. McCollum" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys - bernie


> I have been reading the recent exchanges about the Shirley family. I did
> some research about a month ago for a lady who was related to Anne Shirley
> who married Bennett Watkins. Have this iin my files. Also, there is an
> article about the Shirley family in the Izard County History Book. Do you
> have this?
> Betty Mc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Spencer and Audrey <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys - bernie
>
>
> > Yes,
> > To my knowledge, Caroline Seaton and Elisha Shirley are Mary E Shirleys
> > parents. I had not heard of Henry Shirley until it was brought up this
> > week.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys - Audrey
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Audrey,
> > >
> > > So, are you saying that Elisha and Caroline are Mary Shirley's
parents?
> > Or
> > > that family and Henry Shirley's are just connected?
> > >
> > > Appreciate it,
> > >
> > > Bernie Moore-Knowles
> > > Phoenix, Arizona
> > >
> > > "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
> > > question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Spencer and Audrey" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys - Bernie
> > >
> > >
> > > > William Elisha Shirley born in AL 1829 or 1830 died 10-1-1910
> > > > Married to Caroline Seaton who was born 12-15-1835 and died
4-2-1916
> > > both
> > > > are buried in Providence Cem in Sharp Co. AR
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys - Audrey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Alright Audrey!
> > > > >
> > > > > A real life descendant to ask questions of!
> > > > >
> > > > > So tell me, who is Mary Shirley White's parents? Elisha Shirley
or
> is
> > > > Henry
> > > > > Shirley her father?
> > > > >
> > > > > And?
> > > > >
> > > > > Which one is your Little Doc in these 1880 records? Or is either
> one?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1880 CENSUS:
> > > > > Census Place: Johnson, Sharp, Arkansas
> > > > > Source: FHL Film 1254057 National Archives Film T9-0057 Page
> > 138D
> > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> > > > > Daniel WHITE Self M W 24 TN
> > > > > Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN
> > > > > Delitha J. WHITE Sister F W 37 TN
> > > > > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN
> > > > > William WHITE Brother M S W 11 AR
> > > > > Fa: AR Mo: AR
> > > > > George W. WHITE Nephew M S W 6 IL
> > > > > Fa: TN Mo: AR
> > > > > Sarah WHITE Other F W 65 TN
> > > > > Fa: GA Mo: NC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1880 Census Place: Piney Fork, Sharp, Arkansas
> > > > > Source: FHL Film 1254057 National Archives Film T9-0057
Page
> > 125B
> > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> > > > > William WHITE Self M S W 25 TN
> > > > > Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: TN
> > > > > David WHITE Brother M S W 22 TN
> > > > > Occ: Works On Farm Fa: KY Mo: TN
> > > > > Louisa WHITE Sister F S W 15 GA
> > > > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: TN
> > > > >
> > > > > Surely, these Whites in Piney Fork Township are connected to those
> in
> > > the
> > > > > Johnson Township?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bernie Moore-Knowles
> > > > > Phoenix, Arizona
> > > > >
> > > > > "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you
> to
> > > > > question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Spencer and Audrey" <>
> > > > > To: <>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:50 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is what I have given to me from friends and family:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Little Doc White (Daniel,Lindzey) aprox b:1850 married1880
> > > Mary
> > > > E
> > > > > > Shirley prox b:1857
> > > > > > Kids
> > > > > > Martha Jane White - Walker feb 11,1889
> > > > > > Zela M White - Haynes feb 4 1896
> > > > > > Nannie J White -Conyers Dec 10 1884
> > > > > > William White Oct 1 1898
> > > > > > Eugene M White Nov 13 1886
> > > > > > Chester E Mar 19 1891
> > > > > > Callie S(Sarah Caroline) Nov 17 1882
> > =========
> > > > my
> > > > > > great grandmother married Joseph Franklin (Benjamin,Frank) b:
> 1889
> > > > > > married 11-17-1945. Both buried in Conyers Cem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have conflicting ages for Doc White b: 1850-1856.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Vera Reeves" <>
> > > > > > To: <>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:10 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Martha Jane White and the Shirleys
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lady, I really don't know where you store all your files.
> > > > > > > Here's some Sharp County marriage dates for you. I'm putting
> them
> > > > where
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > might fit. You have to decide if they really do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Descendants of William "Elisha" Shirley
> > > > > > > > 1 William "Elisha" Shirley b: 1830 in Alabama d: October 01,
> > 1910
> > > > > > > > . +Caroline Seaton b: 1835 in Tennessee
> > > > > > > > ........ 2 Mary Shirley b: 1865
> > > > > > > > ............ +D. Lindsey "Doc" White b: Abt. 1855 in
Tennessee
> > m:
> > > > > August
> > > > > > > 05, 1880 in Sharp Co., Arkansas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note Mary's middle intial
> > > > > > > Mary E. Shirley 21 of Johnson
> > > > > > > m. 5 Aug 1880
> > > > > > > D. L. White 24 of Johnson
> > > > > > > shows age 21 if born in 1865 that's got to be wrong ???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Zela M. White
> > > > > > > > ....................... +? Haynes
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Nancy J. "Nannie" White b: December
10,
> > 1884
> > > > > > > > ....................... +Franklin M. Conyers
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 William White
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Eugene M. White
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > White, E. M. 22 of Cushman
> > > > > > > m. 28 Apr 1909
> > > > > > > myrtle A. Waters 22 of Sandtown
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Callie White
> > > > > > > > ....................... +? Steward
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > White, Callie 21 of Barren Fork
> > > > > > > m. 17 Apr 1907
> > > > > > > J. F. Stewart 17 of Polk Bayou
> > > > > > > letter of consent to the clerk signed by
> > > > > > > J. H. Stewart and E. T. Stewart
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Chester E. White
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > White, C. E. 19 of Poughkeepsie
> > > > > > > m. 14 Oct 1894
> > > > > > > Lissa VAnce 22 of Evening Shade
> > > > > > > don't see how this one can the the the Chester E. above unless
> he
> > > was
> > > > > born
> > > > > > > before the marriage of his parents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ................... 3 Martha Jane White b: February 08, 1889
> d:
> > > > April
> > > > > > 26,
> > > > > > > 1954 in Memphis, Shleby Co., Tennessee Burial: Elmwood
> > > Cemetery-Shelby
> > > > > > Co.,
> > > > > > > Tennessee
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ....................... +Perry Caswell Walker b: October 11,
> > 1885
> > > in
> > > > > > Sage,
> > > > > > > Izard Co., Arkansas m: January 28, 1920 in Grant Co., Oklahoma
> d:
> > > > > January
> > > > > > > 28, 1961 in Miami Ottawa Co., Oklahoma Burial: Elmwood
> > > Cemetery-Shelby
> > > > > > Co.,
> > > > > > > Tennessee
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ............................. 4 Ewal Garfield Walker
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ................................. +Virginia Clark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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