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From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Livingston and Langston
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:32:17 -0700
References: <20011120.153353.-561637.4.klangston@juno.com>


<<Unfortuneately I only know the maiden name of Maldred, I haven't looked
for who her parents are/were, I may however have that info on a piece of
paper hiding around here but I'd be willing to bet Bernie has it stashed
away on a family group sheet.>>

Well.........guess what?

This morning I got an email from a gentleman named Jim, a Livingston
researcher and it was regarding just this. I thanked him for all that he
sent me and asked his permisssion to post his collective data on the
Livingstons to this List. Upon returning home this afternoon, I had another
email from Jim, giving me the go ahead.

So, this answers our questions about the Declaration of Indepenedence
signatures, etc and think that you all will find this as interesting as I
did.

-snip-
<<Oh and the Livingston connection to the Declaration of Independence? I
have been told that, too. Have it documented? No. I'm embarrassed to say
that I'm not sure who all signed that document, but my understanding is that
Mildred Livingston Langston's grandfather; Robert Livingston, (Sr.) was the
man.>>

Just in case I miss the answer-- heres my take on the LIVINGSTON's.
[note that the one who signed was Philip-- though his brother Robert
was part of the committee that wrote it & the Signer had a son named
Robert.

Here's what I have on his ancestry & siblings;

Robert LIVINGSTON, was born in Scotland and went to the Netherlands
where he learned both business and the Dutch language. He first came
to Albany on business in 1674 [or 1672] and stayed.
Robert married Alida Schuyler, widow of Nicholas Van Rensselaer.
Robert was prominent in affairs of the early colony, especially with
dealings with the natives-- When he died in 1768 he left an estate
that included land of 160,000 acres. [Livingston Manor, in what is now
Columbia County, New York]

Robert & Alida had a son Philip in 1686.
[also sons Robert & Gilbert-- Philip was the eldest]

Philip Livingston sr.m. in Albany, Catherine VanBrugh, the dau of
Pieter Van Brugh, a former mayor of Albany on Sept. 19, 1707. He was
appointed secretary to the Albany Indian commissioners and was made a
member of the governor's council in 1725. By the time of Philip
Livingston's death in 1749, his family was one of the most prominent
in the province.
Ch:
1. Robert, bp. Dec. 25, 1708;
2. Pieter (Van Brugh), bp. Nov. 3, 1710, m. Maria Alexander in New
York, Nov. 3, 1739;
3. Pieter, bp. April 20, 1712;
4. Johannes, bp. April 11, 1714;
5.Philip bp. Jan., 1717, d. June 12, 1778 [The Signer]
6. Hendrik, bp. April 5, 1719;
7. Sara, bp. May 7, 1721;
8. William, bp. Dec. 8, 1723;
9. Sara, bp. Nov. 7, 1725, m. Gen. Lord Sterling;
10. Alida, bp. July 18, 1728;
11. Catharina, bp. April 15, 1733.



And here's the Signer's will from Ancestry's "Abstracts of New York
City Wills".

Abstracts of Wills Vol IV 1744-1753

>From The New York Historical Society Collections, this 1895 volume
features abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogates Office, City of
New York, from 1744 to 1753.

Bibliographic Information: Abstracts of Wills Vol IV 1744-1753, The
New York Historical Society, 1895.

Page 461.--In the name of God, Amen. July 15, 1748, I, PHILIP
LIVINGSTON, of New York, being in perfect health and considering the
infirmity and mortality of man and the uncertainty of this life, have
thought best before I leave this earthly state to dispose of my
temporal goods which it hath pleased God far above my deserts to give
me. My executors are to pay all debts due to any person whatever. I
leave to my eldest son Robert Livingston, Jr., all my lands and
tenements in the manor of Livingston, with the grist mills and saw
mills, furnace, forge and all buildings and premises, and improvements
I have made on the manor, which are very considerable, Together with
all the tools and utensils. I also leave to him the house and lot in
the city of Albany, on the north side of Joncker street, and fronting
on the west side of Pearl street, as it was bequeathed to me by my
father, Robert Livingston, Esq.; Also a lot of ground which I bought
and exchanged from the heirs of Isaac Ver Planck, with part of the
house built thereon; Also the house and lot on the west side of the
house first mentioned; All which lands were devised to me by my father
in fee tail. I also leave to him 3 negroes, 12 horses, 6 geldings, 6
mares, 6 cows, 6 sheep, 6 hogs, and my chariot and my gold watch. And
if I happen to die between the First of February and the First of
September, my wife and children are to have the use of the grist mill
and house, to grind, bolt, pack and ship off all their wheat into
flour and Cornell and manufacture all their wheat that shall be
brought before September 1st. She paying the miller and the baker, and
to bake the cornell into bread. My executors are to make an inventory
of all things, except what are left to my son Robert. I leave to my
wife, Catharine Livingston, all the rest of my real estate in Albany
County and in New York, or elsewhere, during her life, with power to
sell personal property for her support, and for educating my two
daughters, Alida and Catherine, and they are to have the same portions
as I have paid to my sons Robert, Peter, John, Phillip, Henry, and
William, and my daughter Sarah, wife of William Alexander, namely
?1,000 when they are of age or married, besides household furniture to
make them equal to my other children. After my wife's decease, all my
estate is to go to my children, Peter Van Brugh, John, Henry, Philip,
William, Sarah, wife of William Alexander, Alida and Catherine. I
leave to my wife my houses and lots in New York, during her widowhood.
I leave to my son, Peter Van Brugh Livingston, the house in which he
lives, with my part of the lot in New York near the Old Slip. I leave
to my son John the house in which he lives in Broad street. To my son
Phillip the house in which he lives in New York, on Burnets Key, with
the lot and store house. My daughters are to be maintained out of my
estate, and the cost is not to be a part of their portions. My
executors have power to sell real estate. And I make my wife and my
sons executors.

Witnesses, Cornelius Clopper, John Richards, John Clopper. Proved,
July 5, 1749.

[NOTE.--The house and lot of Philip Livingston, in New York, was the
entire front on the east side of Broad street, between Stone street
and "Mill street," now South William street. The north part of this
was the house left to his son, John Livingston, the south part was
afterwards sold to Dr. John Charlton. ]
XXXXXXXX

My interest is only in the Signer & his immediate family.

Jim



Bernie Moore-Knowles
Phoenix, Arizona

"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathryn Y Langston" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Hively, Whitfield, Livingston and Yearry - Jeanie


>
>
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:40:54 -0700 "Bernie Moore-Knowles"
> <> writes:
> > Hi Jeanie
> >
> > Tracked this List down, did you? Trust me, we are a gold mine in
> > research!
> > LOL
> >
> And thankfully Bernie is the one that KEEPS all the notes in one nice
> little
> file that she knows where she put it and goes and gets it at the drop of
> a hat
> or word in this case!
>
> And specific question I'll be glad to help if I can. I'm a fair
> researcher not
> anything as great as Bernie tried to make me sound. Terrible organizer
> though which is ONE reason we appreciate Bernie so much.
>
> Unfortuneately I only know the maiden name of Maldred, I haven't looked
> for who her parents are/were, I may however have that info on a piece of
> paper hiding around here but I'd be willing to bet Bernie has it stashed
> away on a family group sheet.
>
> Kathryn
>
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