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From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Pat and Barbara
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:22:27 -0700
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I have to ask.......
Don't tell me that you shoot holes in the historical markers with your gun,
do you? LOL Tel me it isn't so? You would be like Calamity Jane, right?
You are too much! I can just see it now!
You know though, Pat. I think that is a "man thing".........bulleting down
a highway, you know? What's their hurry? I have another story on that, but
will save it for another time. One such trip with my husband almost cost me
my marriage and we weren't even married yet!
Trust me, you are NEVER boring. Still can't think of that purple blossomed
tree. Not a crepe myrtle, not a sweet gum (of course), not a Bradford pear,
not a ..........
This will drive me crazy. Barbara......name of some others?
"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Brewer" <>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Oklahoma - Peggy and all
> Bernie, what a delightful story.
> This is one of the reasons I find it so hard to travel with my dear
> " Get in, hang on and don't ask me to stop" is his motto. Mine is get in
> and mosey along. Along side me are my camera, my binoculars and of course
> gun. When I see something interesting I stop and look and hopefully take
> pictures. It is very interesting what one can find if you will stop and
> read those "hysterical" signs. We have one about 70 miles from us, here
> the Eastern Oregon desert. Charbonneau (probably didn't get that right),
> buried there. Remember the little babe in Sacagawea's arm's during the
> Lewis & Clark Expedition. His grave was made a National Monument about 25
> years ago. Just off highway 95 in the Jordan Valley/Rome, Oregon area.
> Very interesting I thought.
> Okay I've bored you enough.
> Night all.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Oklahoma - Peggy and all
> > Barabara
> > You've got it! Am just now starting to explore some of these towns in
> > Arizona with my son; Vasser. Poor child, he still has to accompany his
> > mother on what I call "historical road trips." My undergraduate is in
> > History and I am a fool for those historical markers that one sees as
> > travel our highways.
> > Vasser calls them "hysterical markers!" LOL
> > I have a great story for those familiar with Okahoma and it's Indian
> > history:
> > One summer morning when Vasser was about four or five years old, circa
> > or so........I decided that he and I needed a "road trip." This trip
> > going to be to Osage Co., Oklahoma.......a northern neighbor to Tulsa
> > where we lived. Beautiful country, rolling hills and steeped with
> > We packed our picnic lunch and off we went. Stopping at every marker,
> > ice cream parlor........you name it. It was a joint effort and venture.
> > As we meandered down this one highway and as I recall, it would have
> > east of present day Barnsdall, formerly called Bigheart (Help me here,
> > Peggy?) and off to the right of the highway was a marker, telling Vasser
> > I that within an mile or so was a marker designating some historical
> > significance to that spot.
> > Well, we had to stop.
> > It seems that this particular spot housed a very small family cemetery.
> > That of the Deal and Bigheart families. We roamed around the
> > that were monumental I thought.......and began to explain in detail
> > befitting the mind of a kindergarten age boy how important these
> > deceased peoples were to Osage Co., as we know it today and it's
> > James Bigheart was instrumental in negoiating the retention of the
> > rights for the Osage Lands. These rights are what made them the
> > indedpendent tribe that they are today. A great concept that would
> > saving grace for the tribe in the 1920s. They literally became the
> > of the 1920s" in terms of extreme wealth for that era.
> > Now, you know that Vasser was just loving every minute of my
> > lecture..........
> > Now, two weeks later.
> > Well, I am not sure if I have mentioned to the List in the past that I
> > one time owned a boutique in Tulsa, called Mango and Salsa. I traveled
> > the Caribbean and southwestern points, combined the luxury of the
> > contrasting goods and sold them in my place there in Tulsa, in a walking
> > district called Brookside on South Peoria. Neat, neat shop and I
> > "someone had to do it, right?"
> > Well, it seems that a fellow shopkeeper was headed to San Miguel de
> > Allende.......a wonderful colonial town, located in the central mountain
> > regions of Mexico........to buy goods for her store and asked if I
> > accompany her on the acqusition trip.......by van.
> > You bet.
> > This other shopkeeper mentioned that there were two other friends that
> > be traveling with us. One, we nicknamed "Bucks" for her spending
> > Bucks taught Spanish at the University of Kansas and was exceptional in
> > command of the Spanish language. The woman knew every dialect of every
> > Spanish speaking nation, I am telling you. The second was a longtime
> > of hers, Florence Deal Tranum that lived part time in San Miguel and in
> > Tulsa, too.
> > Well, if you recall the names of the individuals that were buried in
> > roadside cemetery near Barnsdall........you have figured out who
> > was.
> > Florence's grandfather; James Bigheart was the Chief of the Osage that
> > them the financially secure tribal nation that they are today.
> > Florence and I became fast friends on that trip. Shared bottles of
> > wine and to this day......I consider her one of my closest friends. She
> > I laugh and tell folks that it was my tribe, the Cherokee that were
> > enough to sell her tribe, the Osage the land that Osage Co. stands on
> > I don't have two dimes to rub together most of the time and have to
> > quarters from her. She can afford it! LOL
> > Moral of the story?
> > You got to take the time to stop at those roadside "hysterical markers."
> > Bernie Moore-Knowles
> > Phoenix, Arizona
> > "I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
> > question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Oklahoma
> > > In a message dated 9/20/01 1:47:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I thought it sounded like a town that one would find in Arizona?
> > >
> > > Last Chance does sound like it could be a "relative" of Show Low,
> > it?
> > >
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > >
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