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From: "Sandra Wright" <>
Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Jean--Old Expression's
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:00:50 -0500
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Jean,
I have a friend that was trying to figure out the same thing.
She said she had heard the expression "you will play whaley" or "you played
whaley" both, growing up, and wondered where the expressions came from, she
was especially interested as her mothers maiden name was "WHALEY". She
never has found anyone to explain the expression and why the Whaley name was
used!
I have heard both your hobbs expression and the whaley expression, wonder if
the name used was changed according to the area or names of the people?

Amazing the memories of expressions that pop into our heads that we heard as
a child and never really questioned, and now that we are older we wonder
what their origin or reason for saying them. It would make an interesting
book, if we could trace down the origin of the expressions , wouldn't it? I
bet different parts of the country had different sayings and expressions,
but probably meant about the same thing, just phrased a little differently
and different names used. Evidently it was a means of teaching their
children, (we still remember the expressions, don't we!), a phrase that
stuck in your head, I guess as a sort of warning or example of what to do or
not to do! Do you suppose?

I'm sure the expressions we have all heard that we can't explain their
origin, would fill a book! :-)

Sandra


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Mayfield Cuevas" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Shelton Ancestry


> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks for you explanation regarding Nathan BLACKWELL. With your mention
> of the migratory route, perhaps they are related to the Cobb County
> BLACKWELLS. I don't have a Nathan among the few that I have collected.
>
> The saying, "You will play hobbs..." is not UNflattering! I would never
> do that to you! No, it's just an expressing ...perhaps a mother telling a
> child who wants to do something she doesn't want him to do, "you will play
> hobbs" doing that as long as I am alive"!
>
> There are so many old expressions and I haven't a clue where that one came
> from. Just thought about it when my brain put the two together! Not
> important. I find it interesting to hear where some old sayings got their
> start. And, surprisingly some of them go all the way back to our European
> roots.
>
> Jean
>
>
>
> At 09:16 PM 9/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Jean,
> >
> >What I know of Sarah J. Blackwell Shelton comes from Affidavits to try
and
> >get a
> >pension after John Shelton died.
> >
> >Sarah J.'s first husband was Nathan Blackwell. They were living in the
Wild
> >Cherry, AR area about 1860, then in about 1872 they moved to Clay, White
> >Co. AR.
> >Nathan died in 1874 and is buried near Clay, White Co.AR. About 1881
Sarah J.
> >returned to the Wild Cherry area and married John Shelton in 1883. There
> >are no
> >children mentioned. The Shelton family migrated from N.C. to GA > AL >
> >MS > AR. I
> >have not checked census records for this Blackwell family.
> >
> >Sarah J. b. 1931 in Memphis TN, but no maiden name given.
> >
> >Your "saying" is completely unknown to us. Perhaps you could explain it
> >(off list
> >if not flattering)
> >
> >Jim and Wanda
> >=============================
> >Jean Mayfield Cuevas wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I wonder whether John's second wife could have been related to the
> > > BLACKWELLS of Cobb County, GA?
> > >
> > > There was a MAYFIELD family who moved from Cobb County, GA to Izard
County,
> > > AR.
> > >
> > > Elisha M. MAYFIELD m. Elizabeth BLACKWELL in Gwennett County, GA in
1837,
> > > and after she died, he married her sister, Catherine. I have often
> > > wondered how/if these MAYFIELDS were related to our branch who were
also in
> > > Izard County, but as of yet, I haven't found the connection.
> > >
> > > Secondly, I have a really silly question.....an old expression popped
into
> > > my head when I was looking at your last name, and one wonders where
> > > expressions come from.....
> > >
> > > "You will play hobbs" doing this or that. Now, your being Canadian,
I am
> > > not sure you will have ever heard that. (Maybe not even being
American! )
> > > I haven't a clue whether it's an American expression, or originated in
> > > England. Anyway, if you don't feel like answering that one, just
ignore it
> > > and chalk it up to it being 5:30 a.m. and I haven't had my coffee yet!
:-)
> > >
> > > Jean C.
> >
> >--
> > Jim Hobbs
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> >
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