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From: "Rick Sayre, CG" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Private claim brought before the Senate
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:57:25 -0400
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Beth - I offer you the following:

The documents you found on Genealogy Bank indicate that a favorable result
was obtained before the United States Court of Claims (established by
Congress in 1885). It is unlikely that you are going to find more in
legislative records as the transmittal from Justice indicates that the only
action necessary was the appropriation of the funds (hence the referral to
the appropriations committee as opposed to the various claims committees).
It is not clear that a bill was passed by both the House and Senate (takes
both to appropriate funds). You have found the action by the Senate which
should lead you to search Statutes at Large (unfortunately the Library of
Congress online version only extends to 1875). Genealogy Bank is a subset to
the entire Serial Set, albeit a very large subset. I suggest you check the
entire Serial Set (available in law libraries) just to be sure that that you
have found it all.

However, it is likely to be more productive if you focus your efforts on RG
123, Records of the United States Court of Claims and RG 205, Records of the
Court of Claims Section of the Department of Justice. Both have finding
aids:

Gaiselle Kerner, comp., Preliminary Inventory of the Records of the United
States Court of Claims, PI 58 (1953)(RG123).

Gaiselle Kerner and Ira N. Kellogg, Jr., comps., Preliminary Inventory of
the Records of the Court of Claims Section of the Department of Justice, PI
47 (1952)(RG205).

Unfortunately I do not have these inventories on hand, but I note they are
described in ARC (Archival Research Catalog) online at NARA. I suggest you
do a search for the relevant series.

At a top level, the _Guide to Federal Records_ indicates that the following
records should be of interest:

123.7 Indian Depredation Case Records, 1891-1918, Textual Records: Case
files, 1891-1918, for claims cases entered pursuant to acts of March 3, 1891
(26 Stat. 851) and January 11, 1915 (38 Stat. 791), authorizing payment for
property taken or destroyed by Indians, including documents dated as early
as 1812(RG 123).

205.3.6 Indian depredation case records, Textual Records: Case files,
1891-94. Letters sent, 1891-1913; and received, 1891-1915. Dockets,
1891-1917. Judgment dockets, 1892-1921. Indexes to Indian tribes and
claimants, 1891-94(RG 205).

By the way there is a good course, Advanced Library Research: Law Libraries
and Government Documents, offered at IGHR.

BTW #2 the article mentioned by Chad is excellent as is the one by Naylor,
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/summer/state-papers.html
and by Deeben,
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2007/spring/genea-accompany.ht
ml.

Rick Sayre

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On Behalf
Of Beth Gay
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:27 PM
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Subject: [APG] Private claim brought before the Senate

Greetings to everyone from muggy Alabama.
How does one obtain a copy of a private claim before the Senate and what
is the cost involved? What information are the documents likely to
contain? The particulars on the claim I am interested in are listed below.

Claimant: Paton Lane Coker
Nature or Object of Claim: Payment of judgment
Congress: 55th
Session: 3
How brought before the Senate: Senate Doc 148 or 143, amt. to House bill
Committee to which referred: Appropriations
Nature of report: favorable
No. of bill: 12203 or 12208
How disposed of in the Senate: passed
Date of act and remarks: Mar 3, 1899

(Having trouble distinguishing 3 from 8 on image from Genealogy.Bank).

Type of claim: Indian Depradation Claim
Payment: $200 on Jan 23, 1899.

Is the actual claim in the House records or the Senate? I assume the
House made the decision to pay the claim and the Senate appropriated the
money for payment.

Thanks in advance for your gracious assistance.

Best regards,
Beth Gay
Auburn, Alabama






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