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From: "Jack Butler" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Ethical Membership
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:24:29 -0500
References: <200712070202.lB721x4w015839@mail.rootsweb.com>
In-Reply-To: <200712070202.lB721x4w015839@mail.rootsweb.com>


Personally, I would have preferred a well laid out presentation of your
concerns. There is little doubt in my mind, especially after this last
post, that you intended for people to believe that your "hypotheticals" were
thinly disguised references to real events involving currently serving
officers. That troubles me. I dislike theatrics and have little patience
for them - especially theatrics with the potential for casting undeserved
aspersion on serving volunteer officers.

If you have accusations to make concerning inappropriate behavior, I would
prefer that you make them directly - preferably through the proper protocols
and procedures.

If you wish to discuss the kinds of powers that our Board and especially our
EC have, or that they should or should not have, I have little doubt that
you can get a discussion going on that topic without the suggestive
hypotheticals.

Jack Butler

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melinde Sanborn" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [APG] Ethical Membership


> Dear Valorie,
>
> Had I asked about the principles that concerned me - without the
> hypotheticals - would you have answered? Would you have even read the
> post?
>
> Two of the situations in the entire original post are hypothetical - to
> the
> best of my knowledge.
>
> Discussions of ethics should be "what ifs," not "but he dids." Framed as
> Kathy Flynn and Elissa Powell did, answered as Elizabeth Shown Mills and
> Claire Bettag have, and discussed as most have done privately, I am
> generally proud of the company on this list.
>
> Melinde
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf
> Of Valorie Zimmerman
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:32 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [APG] Ethical Membership
>
> Melinde, you raised your hypothetical situations on this list. I believe
> that
> many of us on the list have the same questions as Richard -- are these
> hypotheticals, or did these things actually happen?
>
> I would prefer an answer on the list.
>
> Valorie
>
>
>
>
>
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