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From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick" <>
Subject: RE: [APG] Naming patterns
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:05:40 -0500
In-Reply-To: <e1.2198967d.30ce20e7@aol.com>


I have read in numerous places that the common naming convention in Scotland
was:
1st son after father's father.
2nd son--mother's father.
3rd son --father.
4th son -- father's oldest brother.
1st daughter after mother's mother.
2nd dau--father's mother.
3rd dau.--mother.
4th dau--mother's oldest sister.

For my great-great-grandmother and her siblings, born in Morayshire
1818-1833, that held true exactly.

Holly
East Bangor, PA

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [APG] Naming patterns
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2005 6:58:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> I have seen a naming pattern hold true for my husband's English/Welsh
> side
> of the family. Off the top of my head I don't remember exactly what it
> is
> but it has helped to solve a few road blocks on that side of the family
> on
> more than one occassion.
> ---
> I have an interesting brick wall in researching my Scotch-Irish McConnell
> great-grandmother where I feel the naming pattern might be giving me a
> clue
> (although I don't consider it proof) that I may have found part of the
> family on
> a ship arrival record...
>
> I know that my great-grandmother, Mary McConnell was born in Ireland and
> came to America as a child, but I hadn't been able to find out when or
> what ship
> the family came over on. All evidence in America indicates they arrived
> in
> Philadelphia and settled immediately in Southern New Jersey where the
> family
> remained. Mary was born in 1842. Her sister Catharine "Kate" was born
> in
> 1851 (notice the huge gap there) and the next sibbling was Anna born in
> 1859.
>
> Since NJ has fairly reliable birth records as early as 1848 I was able to
> learn that the first birth record in NJ for this family was for Anna in
> 1859.
> The 1860 census supports this by showing that Mary and Catharine and both
> parents, Charles and Catharine, were born in Ireland.
>
> I have a death certificate for Charles McConnell indicating his parents'
> names are Daniel McConnell and Mary Ward. I have not found a death record
> for
> Catharine McConnell but do know her maiden name is Cassaday--I don't have
> her
> parents' given names.
>
> I searched many a ship list in an effort to find the family arriving in
> Philadelphia from Ireland between 1851 and 1859 and came up empty-handed.
> But in
> 1852 on board the Superior from Londonderry to Philadelphia there is a
> Catharine McConnell along with a son and daughter--Daniel and Kate, age 1.
> Also,
> on the same ship, listed separately, is a Rebecca McConnell with a Mary
> McConnell.
>
> I think it might be likely that Charles McConnell came over first and
> worked
> until he could send for his family--and I suspect all of these McConnells
> (even though not listed together on the ship list) are his wife Catharine
> and
> children Catharine and Mary and I must admit I don't know who Rebecca and
> Daniel are...but they could well have been children of the same family or
> Rebecca
> could have been an aunt or other relative. I think Daniel could have
> died
> prior to the 1860 census.
>
> In any case, I keep thinking of the naming pattern and thinking that had
> the
> family followed the naming pattern and had one son--he would have been
> named
> Daniel.
>
> Joan
>
>
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