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From: "Connie Bradbury" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Census Citation
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:52:18 -0800
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Another good suggestion and example. I was elated when Bill Dollarhide
first published his book of census maps and as you said, "other jewels."
Perhaps when I first see something like that in a book, it doesn't have
relevance to what I am pursuing at the moment. The important thing is to
remember where I saw that information when I need it at a later date.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevia W Beverly" <>
To: "Connie Bradbury" <>; <>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [APG] Census Citation
> Seeing Connie's mention of the 1790 census, and it being the smallest
> population enumerated, reminded me of an assignment I always gave my
> classes - to look at one of the most underused resources. I highly
> encourage the use of "A Century of Population Growth From the First Census
> of the United State to the Twelfth 1790-1900" that was originally
> in 1909 by the US Gov't Printing Office, D.C., and reprinted several times
> by Genealogical Publishing Co.
> A possible shortcut is the "General Tables" in my issue beginning on pg
> giving the surnames represented by at least 100 white persons, by state
> territories, at the first census in 1790. Counting the Heads of Household
> it gives the number for the twelve of the sixteen federal court districts
> that were originally enumerated in 1790: ME NH VT MA RI CT NY PA MD VA NC
> Example: Doud, Dowd, Dowds ... Average size of family 5.2; Total HH 51,
> other members 216. The table then tells me that there are none in ME or NH
> but there are 8 families each in VT and MA, 2 in RI, 23 in CT, 2 in NY,
> in PA, only 1 in MD, none in VA, 7 in NC, and none in SC.
> So that narrows down the search somewhat, doesn't it? Of course, beware.
> Remember that this 'index' covers only those families that had at least
> persons of the same surname. Too lengthy to go into a census lesson here
> an explanation of this census can be found on pg 127 of "The Census Book"
> William Dollarhide (Heritage Quest).
> The background information that one finds in this book is invaluable.
> were other assignments that necessitated the use of this book. If you've
> looked at this book, you should. There are maps, etc., Example, for those
> who research black families, one of the tables gives the "Names of Masters
> of Families in the City of New York, by Wards, According to the
> Made About the Year 1703." In addition to the masters name, it gives the
> count of the Negroes by sex and age.
> By the way, using Connie's surname of Ward, there were 694 HH with 3,134
> other members of the families, living in all 12 of the districts (states)
> with the most being in NC MA & NY.
> There are some other 'jewels' in this book --- take a good look!
> Trevia Wooster Beverly
> Houston, Harris County, Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Connie Bradbury" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [APG] Census Citation
>> I was sort of killing time until my replacement got there. There was
>> nothing academic or scientific nor organized about my searching. I was
>> absent mindedly trying a theory, sort of.
>> I had searched diligently (as diligently as I could before the internet)
>> some Ward ancestors. I finally gave up because nothing seemed even
>> right. I had visited my grandfather's sister in 1979, just a few years
>> before she passed away and she brought out the record she kept of the
>> so I copies all the names, dates, places, etc. for their siblings and
>> parents and grandparents on that side of the family. I found their
>> generation easily but never could get back any further.
>> Putting in a name like James Ward for all states would be like getting
>> by a tidal wave--more than I ever wanted! So I started with the 1790
>> because of the smallest population enumerated and state by state worked
>> way from PA down to VA then headed west. I watched for anyone with same
>> given names as were used by two generations. Then progressively searched
>> same way 1800, 1810, etc. I was keeping a list of any place those names
>> I had considered alternate spellings for Ward like Warde, Word, Worde,
>> would you believe Guard, Wyard, Wiard, Wirt, Wird, Wooard as other
>> So, I changed to putting in only the given name as well as aka. That
>> certainly cut down on the number of entries I had to look through. I was
>> following four heads of households then in 1850, when I was able to see
>> families, they weren't my family BUT, I looked at the preceding page or
>> and the same following and that is how I found them. I could not read
>> surname but I picked right up on the given names
>> So, I can take no claim for my success as it was neither good luck or
>> management - just an accident!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [APG] Census Citation
>> > Connie,
>> > How did you find the family after all these years? Perhaps what you did
>> > can
>> > help someone else. I know I have had problems finding people in the
>> > census.
>> > Debbie
>> >> While working at the FHC yesterday I was looking at online censuses at
>> >> Ancestry.com and had just hit a goldmine - it was a family I thought I
>> >> would
>> >> never find and believe me, I have searched the rolls of microfilm
>> >> years
>> >> ago and
>> >> then online. I was printing off images as fast as the printer would
>> >> them
>> >> out but I was running out of time. So, I tried something that worked
>> >> that saved
>> >> me a lot of time handwriting the source citation.
>> >> For each image I went back to the index and clicked on the
>> >> individual's
>> >> name and
>> >> that brings up all the pertinent information. As I did that I put the
>> >> census
>> >> image back in the printer so it would print on the back side. I
>> >> highlighted all
>> >> the information about the individual, copied it, pasted it in a Word
>> >> document
>> >> and printed it on the back of the image.
>> >> Someone probably knows a better way to do this or a shortcut but I
>> >> just
>> >> left the
>> >> Word document open and quickly went through the indexes and copied the
>> >> information on a different page, stacked my images in the printer in
>> >> order
>> >> in Word and printed them out. It only took a few minutes to do this.
>> >> My handwriting is getting worse every year and I am slower. I know I
>> >> would have
>> >> been a least 30 minutes copying the sources by hand.
>> >> Connie
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