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From: "lguzman" <>
Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] British knew in advance about Trenton
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:21:40 -0500
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I'm shooting from the hip, as I often do, but this makes the fiction writer
in me come out.

(BTW, thanks for sending this story. I can use it in something I'm working

Why would someone ignore a tipoff in wartime?

1. Is the source of the tipoff setting you up or is the information good?
How can you tell that the man isn't a Patriot trying to get you to do
something not in your best interest? (Like taking part of your forces in
the wrong direction.)

2. Is the source of the information drunk? Do any of your soldiers know
this person and can vouch for his good character? What's his motive for the
tipoff? Does he have his hand out? Is he loyal to good King George and is
simply doing his patriotic duty?

3. What is the commanding officer like? If I'm given a tipoff, do I trust
the CO or do I think he's going to hang me out to dry if I pass this
information along and it turns out to be false? I don't want to be
perceived as a loose cannon.

4. It's far easier to say, in hindsight, "Golly, gee, that man was right.
Washington DID sneak up on us."

It's really convenient for this guy to claim after the fact that there was a
tipoff but no one would listen to him. Call me cynical, but in the Navy, we
called this CYA.


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Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] British knew in advance about Trenton

> Subj: Re: [AMER-REV] British knew in advance about Trenton
> Date: 7/8/2003 11:16:54 PM EST
> From: JMJJF
> Speaking of falling through the cracks of history, as Ed does in his
> of the man with the silver medal, I read a story in the paper the other
> about how a spy had given the British information in advance of the
crossing of
> the Delaware by Washington and his men, at Christmas time, 1776. Maybe
> of you read it too.
> I meant to transcribe and send it, but went on reading and forgot. Now
> paper is gone!
> Anyway, the information turned up recently in the attic of a Scottish
> north of Aberdeen, once owned by a General Grant. Grant himself seems to
> have turned the information over to the Hessian commandant (Ralle?), in
1776, but
> for some reason it was ignored, and the American attack succeeded. I
> there may have been a bit more to this story, but memory fails me.
> Question: why do so many such tipoffs go unheeded in wartime? Is it some
> quirk of the military mind, or would any of us be apt to do the same? Is
> part of the phenomenon that led to the ignoring of intelligence about the
> attacks on the New York towers?
> Did anyone else see the Grant story? I read it in the Cleveland Plain
> Dealer, and I think it was this past Sunday's. Anne
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